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post #1 of 40 (permalink) Old 01-03-2005, 06:46 PM Thread Starter
 
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its set!!!

i am getting the 2003 sv650s (they still have some at the dealer) i have enoghf to get a down payment and then i will pay payments with my job but i need to know what kind of gear i NEED
like can i get away with just a helmet and boots??? i dont have a lot of money so i just wondering when i get to get the bike it will be okay weather to ride in i have to wait 2 months to get my licence im takin the MSF in a month so what gear do i need
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post #2 of 40 (permalink) Old 01-03-2005, 07:04 PM
 
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depends on if you want to be a squid or not. Spend some money and buy some good equipment. It's worth it. Must have.......

helmet
gloves
jacket
boots

the above are needed for sure. Now, the don't have to be riding boots but it's pretty much all I wear when I ride but a make sure they're leather and go above the ankle. Helmet...obviously and type is up to you but you get what you pay for and it's your brain in there so you decide what it's worth. Jacket...wear one. Always wear one, even if it's one of those mesh ones (have one myself). Road rash sucks...losing your skin I think would suck even more. As for gloves, it's up to you but I prefer leather.
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Good to see that you are going to take the MSF course. Even better that you took the time to ask the question for gear.

Helmet is a HUGE must.
Letather jacket is best.
Gloves are Nice.
Pants or dragging jeans.
Boots are good but you dont need to go all out and get the best.

If you play it right...you may be able to get some free stuff from your dealer. That will make it easier for you to get more gear.
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how do i get free stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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how do i get free stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, you have to spend a LOT of time at the dealership. Make the salesman think that you aren't sure that you really want the bike. Go in and look at it, sit on it, ask questions about it. Do this on several different days, maybe even for a full week. Then on the day you plan to buy, plan on being at the dealership most of the day. BUT, go late in the afternoon so that he is BEGGING you to take the bike and all the stuff just so he can go home for the night.

Always talk to the same guy. The longer you take to decide, the more stuff they throw in because they want to make the sale. Don't just walk in and say, "I want that bike, how much is it?" because you'll get hosed. They have to think that you don't know what you want, but that you are interested in a certain model. Make sure you look at other models and ask questions about them, but keep going back to the same one. Say things like, "I don't know, I'm just kind of drawn to this one." But then change your mind and look at others. Take your sweet ass time, as well as the salesman's time. The more you bother them, the more they will give you a better deal because they just want the sale and they want you out of their hair.

I knew a guy a few years back that had joined the Air Force and got a $6000 bonus for signing up. He saved his money while he was in tech school for nine months, then got to his first station and bought a car. I later asked how much he paid and he said, "the normal price, it's a car." I said, "you mean to tell me that you paid sticker?" He said, "yeah, you can't argue the price on a new car." I fell on the floor laughing my ass off. Yes, you can, and SHOULD argue the price on a new car or new motorcycle. NEVER pay sticker. And get free **** thrown in by making them think you aren't quite sold on the vehicle.

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Not free, but you can get very good deals on stuff at newenough.com. Im sure you could find a decent textile jacket for under $100

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Heck yeah...newenough is awsome. I got my leather jacket from there and saved $100. $400 is better then $500 in the dealer.
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Oh, and since you're looking at a 2003 model, they will be more apt to lower the price and throw in free stuff because they want to get those bikes out of their inventory. So just follow my advice. Act like you have all the time in the world to decide. Make them sell the bike to you, don't just walk in and buy it from them. Oh, and just because they say, "no, my manager says I can't give that to you", that doesn't mean diddly squat. It doesn't hurt to say, "well, then I guess I'm not interested" and then get up and start to walk out the door. They'll come get you and try to work something else out. Yes, I've done this once or twice.
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Good to see that you are going to take the MSF course. Even better that you took the time to ask the question for gear.

Helmet is a HUGE must.
Letather jacket is best.
Gloves are Nice.
Pants or dragging jeans.
Boots are good but you dont need to go all out and get the best.

If you play it right...you may be able to get some free stuff from your dealer. That will make it easier for you to get more gear.
Nice?!?! are you thinking!!! A MUST!!! Somebody please post up that pic that was going around of that guys hands all F'ed up!!




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When you fall...just tuck them up inside the leather jacket for portection. LOL ok you need the gloves.
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Oh, and since you're looking at a 2003 model, they will be more apt to lower the price and throw in free stuff because they want to get those bikes out of their inventory. So just follow my advice. Act like you have all the time in the world to decide. Make them sell the bike to you, don't just walk in and buy it from them. Oh, and just because they say, "no, my manager says I can't give that to you", that doesn't mean diddly squat. It doesn't hurt to say, "well, then I guess I'm not interested" and then get up and start to walk out the door. They'll come get you and try to work something else out. Yes, I've done this once or twice.
lol my mom will be there to co sign so im sure she will do this i will make her read it before we go lol
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bulldog...listen to Caption on that. He speaks the truth and it does work. I've done it on a truck I bought in 2000. He told me he couldn't do any better so I told him the other place could and got up to leave. I ddin't make it 10ft and he was asking me to sit down and see what else he could do.
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bulldog...listen to Caption on that. He speaks the truth and it does work. I've done it on a truck I bought in 2000. He told me he couldn't do any better so I told him the other place could and got up to leave. I ddin't make it 10ft and he was asking me to sit down and see what else he could do.
yeah okay but then what do i do if he dosent say "hold on " if i really do want the bike???????????????
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He'll have your info and call you or stop you before you get into your car.
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LOL... well I didn't spread it out over a weeks time when I bought mine, but a good chunk of an afternoon. I ended up keeping my salesman and a manager there for 2 hours after closing on a sunday night. I got a pretty good deal, plus a $100 off coupon for my helmet (every bike purchase gets one of those though), and a bunch of discount points to use towards other purchases of parts and service, oh and a free 1 year membership to the HRCA as well. I also did the looking at other bikes thing, then saying 'no, I really like the first one', even though I already had my mind made up and no intention of considering a different one. I think it helped also that I had my financing worked out ahead of time, and walked in with a blank check that was only good up to a certain amount of my choosing, which it clearly stated on the check. After their quote was waaay higher than I wanted to pay, I just showed them the check where it said 'void over $xxxx.xx' and I said I absolutely would not finance or pay any more, and let the check do the talking. After enough trips to the 'managers office' , I got it for what I wanted As we were walking out my friend that was with me said "I hate you!" since I just paid about $700 less than he paid for his '04 F4i just several months prior, LOL

As for gear... GET IT!! And don't ride without it. You can find stuff online for not that expensive.
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what percentege should i say that i willl pay 90% 80% 70%????? and then walk out when he says no and let him call me later??
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what percentege should i say that i willl pay 90% 80% 70%????? and then walk out when he says no and let him call me later??

What do you mean by percentage of 90, 80, or 70????
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What do you mean by percentage of 90, 80, or 70????
like say the bike is 6,999 $$$ should i say like i will pay 6000 or 6500 or can i go as low as 5500???

and one last thing what the hell is a squid?? ive heard that so much at other sites??? sorry little off topic lol
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If the bike is $6999, you can only try to take him down as low as poss. and that may only be $6000. But atleast you brought it down a grand.

Now a "squid" is this:
squid (skwid) n. 1. a motorcyclist who exaggerates his riding ability by attempting dangerous tricks. 2. a motorcyclist who wears grossly inadequate safety gear, typically shorts, T-shirt, and flip-flops. [Naval term for young sailor; typically one on leave with money to spend on a motorcycle.] Believed to be an acronym for Stupid, Quick, and Inevitably Dead. Or Super QUick, Inadequately Dressed.

Here take this test to see if you are a "squid" or not. It may help you out.
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Also...and thanks to WOS for this one. Its from there website( www.wideopensportbikes.com)

You might be a SQUID if:


You are a guy and you ride passenger with a girl

You ride in sandals

You bad mouth all "other" brands of bikes (and have never ridden them)

You tell anyone you have gone 160 on the street

Your "racing" jacket is from Wal-Mart.

You think Arai is Jamaican for OK

You don't have a clue what a Buell is

You bought a Sport bike and put saddlebags and a sissy bar on it so you can go to Sturgis.

You keep fouling plugs riding with the choke on

You have Harley stickers on your car and ride a Rebel

Your Mom and Dad won't ride with you

There is a crack in your helmet

You helmet is the wrong size

You ride with ANY safety features on your bike not working

You have a cup holder duct taped to your handlebars.

You have a fuel injected bike with DynoJet / Factory Jet kit sticker

You ride wearing cut-offs, sandals, and a mesh tank top.

You have any "NO FEAR" decals on your motorcycle.

You think that a wheelie is the mark of a skilled rider.

You ride around with your $500 SHOEI bungie netted to your rear seat.

You drag your brand new $300 AGV boots in order to simulate years of hard cornering use just so you can brag about your 'years' of hard cornering use.

Your idea of head protection is a do-rag bandanna and a pair of Oakley Blades.

You think that burnouts impress the chicks.

If you ever high sided a passenger.

You're only riding your CBR600F2 until you get your Harley put back together.

You never get your bike out of second gear in the city.

Your rear brake pads aren't even scuffed.

You ever installed a fender eliminator kit.

You thought about putting a sidecar on your GSX-R.

You ride a Suzuki Katana (any size, the bigger the SQUIDer)

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