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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 02-23-2005, 01:30 PM Thread Starter
 
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Bonds

I suppose some of you saw his interview yesterday. Regardless of that, here's the deal. He's either lying about knowing the cream he was using was a steroid, or he's too stupid to know.

Which is it?
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You should have made a poll where we could choose more than one option.
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Yeah like "all of the above"...
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You should have made a poll where we could choose more than one option.
Hmmmm. . good point.
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Since I'm a finance major and NOT a sports enthusiast, I was going to come in here and say that bonds would not be a good investment at this point because interest rates are expected to rise.

However, after reading the initial post, I have no relevant comment so I'll just
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Bonds has been under a microscope and subject to random steroid testing last two years. Guess what Bonds has not shrunk one bit
Knowbody is disputing Bonds puts his time in at Gym The guy works out 6 hours day at gym, what do you expect small arms?
Steroid claims bunch of BS by jealous people who wish they could hit baseball like Bonds

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news flash most pro athletes use steroids, this does not mean that they can hit a homerun, there are ppl 10 times the size of bonds and prolly couldent hit the ball out the infield. i say let pro athletes use em, every other contry they are legal. it would make for better entertainment. i can see it now, i just got over arguing about this subject in my other forum, the steroids not bonds.
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news flash most pro athletes use steroids, this does not mean that they can hit a homerun, there are ppl 10 times the size of bonds and prolly couldent hit the ball out the infield. i say let pro athletes use em, every other contry they are legal. it would make for better entertainment. i can see it now, i just got over arguing about this subject in my other forum, the steroids not bonds.
Baseball is one of few sports where steroids donot help you much.
Hand eye coordination will not impove with steroids use.
If it only took strength to hit home runs half baseball players would look like football linemen
Look at Babe Ruths arms Only weight lifting he did was with shot glass Ruth still put up great Home run numbers

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Theo nly thing i cna say bad aobut that thought is that KIDS look up to athletes... u want your kid to grow and and inject to make money????your kid can turn 18 and make millions buy using would u want him too? Who cares if the pro adults want to, but they are ROLEMODELS, you cant ask your kids to look up to a $#!tbag.

I think he knew he used em, but hes still a great hitter.. and still would have hit 90% of em without steriods.
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true i they are roll models but in the wrestling world they are all on roids and kids love that. they just need to let the whole steroid issue go and let them be and ppl wont know weather they are using or not. and i am agains young ppl doint steroids in highschool, at that age and level you have no business using them. and on the thought you cant just inject yourself and get hugh, most ppl that use them work out extremely hard. steroids are only bad if used by someone that had no knowledge of them.
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ok after that one your being demoted...lol
if osmeone uses em a few monthes.. really nothing badf is gonan happen.. but someone who uses em over a carrerr will have problems.. MAJOR problems..may not see em for 20 years after but when they get put on Kidney dialosis cuz they are failing and they get seoris of the liver form the extra crap the body has to filter theyll know what its from.
Plus it increases the risk of prostate cancer and such.
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Ok i'll chime in here now.

I'm a ball player, and have been my whole life. It's something that just gets in your blood.

Hitting a baseball at that level, is 90% mental, 9%timing, and the rest a combination of skill, strength, bat speed, lunar activities, etc......

I think he did take steroids, and i think he took them knowing full well what he was doing. Did they help him? YES. and heres why.

Hitting a long ball off a pitch thats right down the middle is all about bat speed, and timing. swing fast and through, while making good contact, and the ball is going, going, gone. it has nothing to do with brute force, and more to do with a nice fluid motion. Heres the catch. Hitting a ball thats out of your "wheel house", throws off your nice fluid swing and changes your whole geometry. Now, because you "upset" geometry, and have to chase a ball thats, say, low and away, it now requiers more force to transfer the same amount of energy into the ball and it did whith a nice fluid swing and a ball in the zone. Thats where bonds extra strength came into play. He wasn't getting "pitched to". Every pitcher in the leauge was pitching around him, and not giving him any good pitches to hit. The extra strength he had allowed him to chase balls low and away, and still drive them out of the park. If you were to go back and look at 90% of the dingers he hit, they were all out of the zone, and he had to muscle them out of the park.

Thats the end of my rant. Oh and to answer the poll question, i'd say both!! I think he's a liar and a moron. I never liked him, even before this whole debacle
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extra strength from using steroids definately makes a difference in home runs, they say it adds 20-25 feet to a ball, sort of like using an aluminum bat compared to a wooden bat....those line drives he hits are not the problem, its the ones that land in the 1st or 3rd row in the outfield that would have been a routing warning track fly ball out that are the ones that are affected...

jetski, just taking steroids isnt gonna make a person that cant hit a baseball a home run hitter, but when u give steroids to a homerun hitter, those flyball outs are now homeruns and the numbers of homeruns just climb...
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ok after that one your being demoted...lol
if osmeone uses em a few monthes.. really nothing badf is gonan happen.. but someone who uses em over a carrerr will have problems.. MAJOR problems..may not see em for 20 years after but when they get put on Kidney dialosis cuz they are failing and they get seoris of the liver form the extra crap the body has to filter theyll know what its from.
Plus it increases the risk of prostate cancer and such.
you listen to too much news and media. if they are done correctly your chancese of getting cancer or liver, and kidney failure are slim to none. but yes in most cases ppl dont know what they are doing and this happens ppl just take them an know know that if you dont cycle right it will f u up and if you dont do a long enough off cycle it will also f u up. as far as liver and kidney damage, oral steroids will cause this if used in abundance and for a prolonged time. that is y ppl that know what they are doing usually do not use oral that much and if they do they use a liquid wich helpe it absorb into your system b4 it gets to you liver. but yes there are alot of ppl that take them and have no clue what they are doing and that is what everyone hears about. and for those who dont know steroids DO NOT shrink your wang they will shrivel you nuts up a little though. steroids are sorta seen as motorcycles you only hear about how bad they are and all the bad things that happen from them, if i had to guess i would guess that more ppl die from motorcycle deaths each year then steroids.
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Since I'm a finance major and NOT a sports enthusiast, I was going to come in here and say that bonds would not be a good investment at this point because interest rates are expected to rise.

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LOL I was thinking the same thing.
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I don't know, he was trying to push the whole "Oh yeah, well you media are liars too" thing.... usually that is someones first reaction when they know they have been caught....

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