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Anyone Got A Ticket?

Has anyone got a ticket for doing at least 20 MPH over the posted limit? I got one last week and didn't get a fine but I got a court date. Has this happened to anyone else before? What happened? I'm gonna try to settle this before i have to go to court so I don't have to pay court costs. I know it's different in each state but i was just wondering.
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In many states, 20 over is a criminal offense. It can mean a non-custodial arrest and a mandatory court date.

I don't know what it's like in your state, but you may have no choice.
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I got one something like that in 1989
109 in a 55.
Lost my license for 30 days!
Lost my insurance company and had to get new company with much higher rates.
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The officer said I was going 86 in a 65 and I told him I was going like 70 or 75. he just said "OK" and continued to write me up. Shouldn't he have showed me the radar? I think I'm gonna use that if I actually do appear in court. I don't have my endorsement yet either. All I have is the MSF card. I know, I know, i should have mentioned it earlier. Around here the cops will accept the MSF card alone. I'll just tell them I'm waiting on the MA DMV to mail me back my endorsement, because I don't want to become a Nevada resident.
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Ooooooooh... your'e in trouble

I could not even tell you what could happen... I know that it is the Judges discretion if you will pay a fine or be able to take Defensive driving... but How much over the speed limit were you really going and how fast did he clock you? I have a few things at work... that may be able to help you...in some way...
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I got a really stupid one in 99. (stupid me) Just got my new/used bike and spun it around the hood. Got pulled over for no plate, ticketed for no insurance, and escaped with no endorsement. I really could have used that money elsewhere.
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He said I was going 86 in a 65 and I said I was going like 70-75. He never showed me the radar showing I fast I was going. So he might or might not have clocked me at 21MPH over the limit.
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I just got my first ticket about a week ago on my way up to Orlando. I got pretty lucky though.... the whole way up there I was going about 120-125 (70 mph limit on the t-pike), and I get north of West Palm Beach (about 75 miles) and get pulled over by FHP. Luckily I had come up on some cars just before that and had slowed down to 90, so that's what he had me clocked at. He was really nice though and didn't even give me a lecture, just said "well you were going a little fast back there, so I'm gonna have to write you a citation", and then he dropped the speed to 79 in a 70 since 90 would have been over $200. So now it's only $82, and court is not mandatory. This way I can just take the driving scool thing online and get the fine reduced, and no points on my license.

Several months ago though I got REAL lucky! Got pulled over locally going 90 in a 65, and I too didn't have my endorsement put on my license yet, only the MSF card. After a brief lecture and him telling me he "could" take me to jail right now, he said "you have 2 options: I take you to jail or you have somebody come pick you up". I told him I'd have somebody come pick me up. Then he said "well I'm not gonna wait around here, so whatever you do after I leave is your business. If I come back by here and your gone I'll assume somebody picked you up". After all that, he got in his car and left... phew!! I waited about 10 minutes and slowly made my way back home, LOL

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I waited about 10 minutes and slowly made my way back home, LOL
I would have done the same!

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He doesn't have to show you the radar... you can ask but I believe that's up to them if they will show you or not... what did he write on the ticket... Cuz that's the speed that the judge will look at.
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Well I didn't get lucky on this one. Thanks for the link Gas. I'm gonna be reading it for a while and taking A LOT of notes.
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Has anyone got a ticket for doing at least 20 MPH over the posted limit? I got one last week and didn't get a fine but I got a court date. Has this happened to anyone else before? What happened? I'm gonna try to settle this before i have to go to court so I don't have to pay court costs. I know it's different in each state but i was just wondering.
Few years ago just finished tuning up my Ninja 1000R jumped on freeway looked behind me for cops, none opend throttle full open. Looked in my rear view mirror CHP car was right on my a$$ Figured Officer had my plate no chance of taking off. Officer said he clocked me at 125 MPH but he would give me a break wrote ticket for 85 MPH in 55 MPH zone.
Decided to go to court to see if cop showed up, was going to give story that I merged onto freeway car came up on me fast so I nailed gas for my own safety.
Officer showed up for court, decided hell with story just plead guilty. Good thing I did. Judge said if I had given him a story he was going to suspend my license. Paid $250 fine for speeding only

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He doesn't have to show you the radar... you can ask but I believe that's up to them if they will show you or not... what did he write on the ticket... Cuz that's the speed that the judge will look at.
CA cops are suppose to lock in your radar speed, if you ask cop has to show it to you. Friend who is local radar cop told me if I ever get pulled over for speeding with radar gun drag out ticket. When you are ready to sign ask to see radar reading. He says most cops donot lock in speed on gun, knowbody ever asks to see speed reading.
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If the police show you the radar or laser is completely irrelevant. Even if they do show it to you it wont show that it was your vehicle that was clocked.

They will very rarely show it to you unless you ask. Bringing it up in court that he didnt show it to you will just be a waste of the courts time. Judges do not like that at all.

First off you do want to GO TO COURT. There is a chance that the officer wont show. OK, say he does show this is what will probably happen

The officer will testify first (please keep in mind this is at least how it works in So. Cal) and will say something to the extent of.....

I was monitoring Van Nuys Blvd which is a North South street. The posted speed limit is 45 with a critical speed of 47 mph. Van Nuys is a very busy street with many stoplights, pedestrian traffic, etc. etc. There is a speed survey on file with the court if you would take judicial notice.

I was in a uniform like this one sitting on a black and white police motorcycle. I observed Mr ....... travelling s/b at an estimated speed of 64 mph. I placed my calibrated laser unit to my eye and squeezed the trigger. I have attended a 40 hour class covering laser and radar units. The laser returned a reading of 66 mph. The laser was properly functioning. Due to the above circumstances and Mr..... speed I believe that he was operating his vehicle in an unsafe manner.

I stopped Mr...... and he said............ I then cited him for the indicated violation and released him on his promise to appear.


If you get a officer who says the above and seems to recite all this from memory. Your pretty much done for. This will be the case of all Motor Cops.
This is what they do. This is what they get paid for and this is how they get to keep on their bikes

OK that is the worst part. Now for the stuff that might help you.

Sometimes a officer might be using a radar/laser unit and might not even be trained on it.

1. If he makes no mention of being laser trained. Ask him his experience.
2. Ask if there is a speed survey for the street on file with the court
3. Ask when the Laser/Radar was calibrated last.

When you are stopped BE COOL during the entire time. This goes even when they ask you to sign the ticket. Most police do not like giving nice cooperative people citations. IT IS THEIR JOB. If they let you go they just have to go find someone else. If they see that you show up in court and do care enough to hope that maybe they would not show sometimes you may get a break and they will dismiss the ticket without you having to do a thing.
Granted, that is a best case scenario but it does happen. This is why you want to be cooperative during the entire time you are stopped. Just because he asks you to sign the ticket doesnt mean he cant/wont help you later.

Good Luck.
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I got one something like that in 1989
109 in a 55.
Lost my license for 30 days!
Lost my insurance company and had to get new company with much higher rates.
You play you pay. Sooner or later.
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i seriouskly dont speed until i am about a mile or two into the country ..... i MAYBE hit 40 on a 35 in the city but thats it
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and that's why we try to help you.
Even if you don't understand it.
no i know you guys do sometimes i just get agrivated that all
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I can tell you, as a former cop, it was sometimes difficult to recall history. You do so many different things in the course of a 10+ hour day and have to write reports for most of it.

Then, these court dates are down the road. That's why it's important for the officer to do the same thing at every stop and write a detailed report. If it's not in the report, it didn't happen.

They would try and schedule the court dates around our schedules, most of the time we could make it. Sometimes we could not.

Once, I worked a 10 hour shift and had a court date 90 minutes after my shift ended. I was so tired, but stuck around. Not all officers would have.

So, the officer may or may not make it. When he's there, I wouldn't count on him forgetting the incident, but I can tell you it is difficult to remember, at least it was for me. We used to have to go to records ahead of time and "prep" ourselves by going over the report so it was fresh in our minds.
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