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Motorcycle dynos?

What is the rule of thumb for % drivetrain loss bikes have? For instance, vettes are around 15% for manuals.. meaning, if they're rated at 350hp, they dyno somewhere around 305rwhp.
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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old 04-20-2005, 01:37 PM
 
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Manufacturer's claimed horsepower is just like their claimed dry weight. Pie in the sky. The busa has around 150 rwhp. Have you done the TRE yet?
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The stock ones are dyno'ing in the mid 150s. .so, I'm trying to figure out what that is at the crank.

Done the TRE. . ???
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The stock ones are dyno'ing in the mid 150s. .so, I'm trying to figure out what that is at the crank.

Done the TRE. . ???

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Yea no worries is jacking the thread right off the bat!

I think the loss is around 10%




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Damnit Shan, you had to link me didn't you? Now I have to order it. lol

GasMan, thanks, I've been trying to find that info for months. So if that's right and the busas I've seen dyno stock are doing 158rwhp, then they're 175hp at the crank? That doesn't sound right, I thought they were rated at 160-something. It doesn't really matter, just curious.

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Sorry about the . Installing the TRE on Suzuki's, and the Bonneville Box on ZX-12's is project #79 in the 101 Sportbike Performance Projects book I just received. Speedwerk's should have the Ivan's TRE.
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Yes, we do...and we're cheaper than the previous link we saw on here. Our price is $60.00 for the Ivan's TRE.
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Cool deal, I'll be in touch tomorrow or Friday. I'm new to the whole bike mod thing. .hopefully it doesn't get out of hand as quickly as it does with cars.
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My Z1000 is 140HP aT THE CRANK and 125 RWHP... that comes out to about 10.8%. thats with a 525 chain and sprocket set... so depending on what the busa's chain is maybe a bit more or less.. but id imagine a busa runs a 530 chain and sprocket set so id say 11% maybe... either way not a big diff on crank number. Givben a busas numbers that gives ya aobut a 165-175 Crank HP. But thats not including the ram air benfit im sure... Suzuki used to claim mid 180's.... id beleive it if u cram 100+MPH wind down the intake.
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Yeah so my 10% is about right... if you take your hp at the rear wheel and divide it by .90 you'll get a good estimate of the crank hp.... glad/hope it helps!




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or multiply it by 1.1....

I hate division so i do everything in multiplication.

And if u wanan know what YOUR bike does with mods Dyno it now and hten do the math.. and be sure to post your dyno run up for us.
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10% - 15% depending on the amount of reciprocating mass and rolling resistance from the bearings. Also, there's some loss in the tranny that you'll never get back.

The lighter the sprockets, chain, and wheel, the less loss you'll have. Ceramic bearings are icing on the cake if you want to be really anal (but you're really talking about a .5% - 1% difference).

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