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GM to cut 25,000 jobs, close plants

Hey G.W...Where are all these great new jobs you say are being created...I don't think Infantryman in Iraq counts...


General Motors Corp. plans to eliminate 25,000 jobs in the United States by 2008 and to close plants as part of a strategy to revive its struggling North American operations.

It was not immediately known which GM plants would be closed. GM makes the Chevy Malibu and Malibu Maxx at its Fairfax plant in Kansas City, Kan.

Speaking to shareholders at GM's 96th annual shareholder meeting this morning in Wilmington, Del., Chairman and Chief Executive Rick Wagoner said the capacity and job cuts will generate annual savings of roughly $2.5 billion.

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 06-08-2005, 09:44 AM
 
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It's the import revolution baby. Nobody wants those outdated vehiclews when you can get great product from the import manufacturers. Thats why I drive a Titan.
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Ouch, that would hurt here in KC. Sprint already hurts bad enough with it's layoffs we don't need one of our car plants going under. The Harley plant maybe haha
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And I thought about going to there for work...
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It's the import revolution baby. Nobody wants those outdated vehiclews when you can get great product from the import manufacturers. Thats why I drive a Titan.
I'm sorry for you!

Trucks are suppose to be Ford, Chevy, or GMC... heck even Doudge! Not a Jap manu!

Import revolution.... Besides my bike, I only buy American cars... primarily for 2 reasons... First, I already said above, but furhtermore, I have to own a truck and it has to be American.

Second, and very important, I get discounts for GM and Ford!




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Bet you wouldnot join import revolution work force, with their poor wages and benifits

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That's odd ... considering my Tundra was assembled in the US, while many "American" trucks are now assembled in Mexico ... You can't blame them though ... it's hard to compete when you have to pay more for manual labor than many other industries pay for college graduates.

Honestly ... you can only make junk for so long before people get tired of it and someone else starts to make it better. The only truck I'd buy American would be a full-size diesel ... until Toyota and Nissan start importing Diesels, that is.

(For the record ... I tried to buy an American truck when I first started racing. It was in the shop 6 times in the first 4000 miles. I drove it to the Toyota Dealership when the Tundra came out ... 90k miles later, I've never had to take it in for repair, and I'm pretty happy with my decision).

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I actually worked for Ford for 3 years and I can tell you that I never once bought a Ford while I worked there. I know the quality that Ford puts out and it just showed me that I should never buy anything they bring out. Don't get me wrong, they have some nice lines, but the quality is very poor.
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I work in the automotive industry (In Detroit). Its a dirty industry and a rough one at that. Laura made a valid point. Toyota is moving many of its assembly plants into the United States. All while Ford and General Motors move production to Mexico, Canada, and now even over seas to China/ Korea/ Japan. Your not buying "American Made" your just buying from an American Company. The vast majority of components in GM/ Ford and DCX vehicles (the "American" companies) come from Foreign sources. Where as the "Domestic Imports" (new term for Asian companies producing in US) are using parts produced in North America. So what do you want to buy, from an American Company which produces in a foreign country, or a Foreign Company which produces in America (providing Jobs to Americans)??? Just flip a coin. The buy American thing is quickly becoming BS since its nearly impossible to define what exactly that means now.
Take for example the 2005 Chevrolet Equinox I bought my wife the week it was released. Her father (GM loyal employee) pushed for buying GM since it was American.However when I pointed out that the Engine was build in China, put on a boat where the boat then picked up the transmission which was built/ assembled in Japan, went to California where it was Railroaded to Canada for vehicle assembly (many parts coming out of Mexico). Now what is really American about that?
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I read in Forbes Magazine a while back that Pontiac and Buick are going to possibly fall prey to the same grim reaper as Plymouth and Oldsmobile.

It seems as though lucrative manufacturing jobs in the USA are a thing of the past.
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I read in Forbes Magazine a while back that Pontiac and Buick are going to possibly fall prey to the same grim reaper as Plymouth and Oldsmobile.

It seems as though lucrative manufacturing jobs in the USA are a thing of the past.
Old talk but now apprears it will not happen. Saab was another one they considered eliminating. However many reports say that would be a bad marketing move. Pontiac bring in a younger crowd and without Buick, ewhat would hte blue hairs drive?
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Ace your post #11 is exactly what the problem is.. .I should be more specific... I like my American branded trucks! However, my truck was built(assembled) in the Wayne plant. Which is good I guess.

But I will give the Asian companies props for bring more and more jobs over to America. And give the American branded stuff the thumbs down for sending more jobs away.

It sucks either way... lay offs suck, and everybody in the company and the unions suck for allowing it to happen!




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Its all about money!

The US companies contract foreign companies to build parts for less money than we can build the same parts in the US.

The foreign companies assemble the vehicle here because its cheaper to ship parts than it is a vehicle. They get a better finished product at the end for less money invested.

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It's the cost of doing business. What is happening is the Asian car manufactures are coming to the US because it costs too much these days to ship vehicles. Fuel is killing shipments from off shore so guess what...Canada and Mexico are winning big right now. The Asian companies with manufacturing plants here were originally shipping parts from off shore but are now looking to localize as well but the problem is that the labor rates in the US are super high. Now to add to that, there's something else going on, there's an economy boom happening in China like mad right now as in they may become the biggest someday....which means they're eating up all the earths raw metals for building things they need....with that, steal prices have increased by 10%. Doesn't sound like much....BS. It's a ton and it's killing the car manufactures and their suppliers. So, take US high labor rates and the steal price increase and US companies are being forced to head north, or in most cases south of the border or to Korea, Brazil, etc. It's dirty business and it sucks but to be competitive, you must.

AND MY KICKER. To keep costs down...and I'm not just saying this, all of your beloved US automakers are forcing...YES FORCING their suppliers to go off shore (NOT US) whenever possible.
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