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post #21 of 37 (permalink) Old 06-20-2005, 07:07 PM
 
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On Sunday when I was watching the pre-race show, I realized Michelin had really messed up and was trying to Bully its way through. It reminded me of the Goodyear and Hoosier battles of the 90's in NASCAR... FIA should get their hand back into their own pockets and go with one tire supplier. If all of the cars had been on the same rubber, it would have been the same for everyone. But remember, Michelin is a French company, and I think they are proud of themselves the way they got to F*ck the Americans at the home of the greatest race in the world...So what will our, as in American, response be??? I, for one just had new tires put on the BEE today, and they are NOT Michelin. I had picked out a set of pilots that were to be put on today...But I called at 8:30 this morning and changed the order...I can live without Michelin tires...and if enough people follow, we will explain the situation to the Michelin people the only way they will understand, a big drop in sales...
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Roach you are more informed than i and youre probably right. Iknow there is politics in all competition, but it got waaaaaaay outta hand here, and american fans footed the bill.

I saw it somewhere, CART is honoring indy F1 tickets ant thier next race. Anyone else see this?

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I comend you for your idea on a boycott but it simply won't work. There are enough people that don't pay any attention to F1 racing that will have no idea of this. And just continue to buy thier tires.

I can't even tell you that I will change my purchase of tires on the knowledge of this. This is big biz at it's best. And if anybody thinks that this stuff doesn't happen with other teams, companies, and racing establishments, then I too have a bridge for sale.

Trying to cheat the system in whatever way possible is dang near a american past time.






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Buy Tomahawk and tell them Twistified Racing sent you. I loaned a set to friend and he said that they were the stickiest tries he ever used.
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Any particular color stickier than the rest?
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post #26 of 37 (permalink) Old 06-21-2005, 09:58 PM
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I was at the race. I totally agree with Roach. The end.

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and this is why I say stick with tires from Japan well at least I plan to get my next set of tires from Japan when I bought the Daytona that are on my car and my dad tells me to go check and make sure that they are date stamped because Daytona or what ever the actual manufacture is had let some old tires out of the ware house and people where losing chunks off of there tires

any one have a video clip of the F1 rack I missed it Sunday but I got to see Batman Begins

And itís a pity people are going to boycott Michelin I heard that they just came out with an awesome tires for sports bikes that a couple magazines are raving about
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post #28 of 37 (permalink) Old 06-22-2005, 02:42 AM
 
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I can understand people being upset, paying $120 for tickets to the World Refuelling Championships, but I cant see the the difference between 6 cars going around not passing each other, or 20 cars goind round, not passing each other.
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post #29 of 37 (permalink) Old 06-22-2005, 08:12 AM
 
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I'd be pissed too. That's BS. They're done over here. They won't be back for a while.
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They should've just slapped some Pilot Powers on those cars

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thats funny pod!

If f1 is done here, then Ecclsetone (?) may have to buy Indy or CART like he was considering.
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post #32 of 37 (permalink) Old 06-22-2005, 03:37 PM
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TON of really bad information here.

#1 - Bernie's comment about Danika is humor taken out of context - it's half of what he said. Bernie has been a long time supporter of Danika, personally and professionally.

#2: Michelin and their teams are the cause of the whole thing. NOT the FIA. The FIA simply enforced their rules. Period. Which they should have. If it had been a Bridgestone problem (as han been the case several times this year), you would have seen 7 Michelin teams saying "Sorry for your luck, see you in France".

Michelin had the same belt separation problem last year - this is what caused Ralph to hit the wall and be seriously injured, missing several races. Even with this, they chose NOT to send anyone to the pre-USGP tire selection test, except for two third string drivers from two teams. They had an opportunity to test and change their tire design. They chose not to.

They showed up with tires that could not go the race distance. They flew in the SAME tires, thinking the ones they had were a bad batch - at 5am Sunday they told the teams the new tires would have the same problem.

Think about this for a minute - you show up at a race track, qualify, then ask that the sanctioning body change the race track to suit your needs. And you expect this to happen?? When the other tire company has no such problem??

*** The FIA told Michelin in a letter that they could pit their cars and change tires throughout the race in the name of safety. Michelin and their teams declined this option and boycotted the race ***.

So ... They brought the wrong tires (because they didn't test), and were given a safety option that wouldn't make them competative (against Bridgestone who did bring the right tires), so they stomped their feet and held their breath, then picked up their toys and went home.

Screw Michelin. It was a terrible day all around, but I applaud the FIA for not bending to a manufacturer trying to dictate the rules. Michelin did have options, just not the ones they wanted.

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found this pretty funny
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That's interesting. Kinda blurry to read, but I can make it out...
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post #37 of 37 (permalink) Old 06-23-2005, 05:37 PM
 
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If you believe that Michelin, a company that spends millions on developing F1 and other race tires, came to Indy (after racing there 5 times before) with no clue about the track surface and features ... then I have a bridge for sale in Manhatten you might find very attractive

- Roach
Well, in regards to track surface, the track WAS just repaved and has a LOT more grip than it used to (at least the oval portion, which was the area of concern), which could have POSSIBLY contributed to Michelin's problem. However, as the letters stated, each team is allowed to bring two different types of tires and Michelin chose their destiny poorly.
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