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An eye opener....about New Orleans !!!

I know not all where like this but, **** like this makes me wonder why we even bother to help people.

An eye opener....accounts of the people that delt with the "poor unfortunate" evacuees from New Orleans.... a bit lenghtly but,well worth reading...

I have never been to New Orleans, but I do have high regard for the person who sent me this. We have even had similar experiences in HS with many of the evacuee's who came thru here.....one was arrested for a rash of robberies (he was staying at the 'Embassy Suites'), those who had been housed temporarily at an area church camp left it totally trashed ( our Mop Squad associates, Nadine & Lonnie spent a week, day and night, cleaning up after they moved on....Nadine said she had never seen so much stuff just left on the floors.....even donated clothing with price tags still attached!...she was appalled.).....At Comfort Inn we housed 30 families (and allowed them to have their pets) whose entire bill was to be paid by FEMA...many of them fought constantly with each other...and complained bitterly about the others dogs barking....every time I worked I found the creamer bowl completely empty (it's never been empty before) and the same thing for the 2 drawers of sugar packets! The breakfast bar counter was littered with trash constantly....as was the floor of the lobby and dining area. The indoor, heated pool was used (an abused) all day and night.....and even thrown -up in by one inebriated evacuee guest:-( One guest asked me if there was some way to charge his movies to his hotel bill so FEMA would have to pay for them (there wasn't). Any way, my limited experience here leads me to suspect that the following may well be a truthfull accounting:

An Eye opener

This is why when I have had to do shows in New Orleans, I worked and went back to the hotel after a meal...it is a cess pool.
Let me tell you a few things about the wonderful group of evacuees we received here in Utah. The first plane arrived with 152 passengers. Of the 152; 10 were children. 3 of these children had been abandoned by their parents. As these passengers attempted to board the plane, the National Guard removed from their person; 43 handguns (it is Illegal to own a Handgun in New Orleans), 20 knives, one man had 100,000 dollars in cash, 20 pounds of Marijuana, 10 pounds of Crack, 15 pounds of Methamphetamines, 10 pounds of various other controlled substances including Heroin.

Upon their arrival here in SLC, two people immediately deplaned and lit up a joint. During the course of medical evaluations, it was discovered that parents were using their kids to carry loads of looted jewelry (price tag still on), and other items. One third of the people who got off the plane were angry that they didn't get to go to Houston or San Antonio. Over the course of the next 36 hours we received an additional 430 evacuees. Most of these, like their predecessors had to be relieved of illegal items. Additionally, most of them, were the owners of exceptionally prolific criminal records, just like those in the first flight.

By the second night in the shelter, there was one attempted rape of a relief worker, sales of drugs on going and a gang had begun to rebuild. When the people arrived at the shelter, they were given the opportunity to dig through piles of donated clothes from local church groups. Many complained that they were second hand clothes. The state set up a reception center with relocation assistance, Medicaid and workforce services among many assistance groups. This past Saturday, workforce services held a job fair. 85 of the 582 evacuees attended. 44 were hired on the spot. 24 were asked back for a second interview. Guess the others had no desire to work.

Yesterday we began relocating evacuees to be with family or friends who had agreed to take them in as well as three to the county jail. Now in the health arena; 4 with Aids, 15% of those 582 had some form of STD, one case of TB, 2 Heroin withdrawals, 15 mental health admissions, one brain tumor and 15 nursing home patients.

Like everyone in this nation, I watched as the news media blasted FEMA and President Bush for the "poor response". While everyone on TV saw nothing but people being let down by government, I saw people letting down people. Who would have ever thought that we would reach a point in time that US citizens would lie around in piles of trash complaining that no one had come to pick them up out of it. What ever happened to people pulling together to make their circumstance better? Why couldn't they get up and move on their own or at least just clean up the area where they had to wait for evacuation? Why did they feel the need to take a crap in the aisle of the superdome?

FEMA did not fail them. FEMA is not a response agency. State and local government is responsible for the first 72 hours. But more important, we all have a responsibility to help ourselves and neighbors. Poverty is not an excuse to behave like animals. (Actually that is an insult to the animals). Difficult situations are not an excuse to loot your neighbor 24 hours before the storm even hits.

I have always said New Orleans was a toilet; now everyone has proof that not only was it a toilet, but a toilet long overdue for a flush.

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Right On Brother !

That is exactly the situation, compounded, by the "Welfare" set, I realize there were many decent, hard working people in NO who lost everything, but the majority, it's a damm shame they managed to get out at all.


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Steve I especially would like to hear your insight..being that you were there.

However, Jeeps, thanks for bringing my personal beliefs to the forefront. I have not donated anything to these people, and will not participate in anything having to do with it. These people want everything handed to them. They think that we OWE them something! BULLSH*T

Would we get help if a tornado goes thru my city and levels everything? NO!

I have felt this way from day one of seeing their lazy fat, dumb asses sitting around that super dome...yelling "you need to help us". Help your GOD DAMN self! Don't just sit around there waiting. Do it yourself! I mean granted that the govt (of some kind) needs to help get the water out of there but beyond that, you at least clean up after yourself.

I'm not surprised that they are that way. They are fithy disgusting pigs (no pun intended to my other white meat).

I can't stand to see all these hollywood a-holes doing all these charity crap for them. As far as I'm concerned they don't deserve crap!

FEMA... it wasn't even close to being their fault or the Feds, including Bush, by any means. The POS Negan (mayor of NO) needs to be dropped off a high cliff on his head. Better yet, I'll voulenteer to shoot his dumb ass!

I think you get my drift... I hate all this crap..love these people..blah blah blah... they want to leave on everybody else's dollar, and then come back to everything being fixed by other people...that's not the way it works! I think shipping them all out was a bad idea. Make them work!!

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being form louisiana, all i can say about it all is... *sigh* yup.
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that is terrible.. this leads back to my personal belief that most people are inherently stupid.. how pathetic.. we should have starting shooting these no good bastards one by one to eliminate the sesspool lowlife members of society.. personally i didn't send a dime either.. especially not after I hear about all this, the mismanagement of money - like people working for the relief agencies going on vacations, etc. and some of these aid funds directly contributing to terrorist efforts.. makes me sick..
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You might want to check this out:

http://www.snopes.com/katrina/personal/utah.asp


In a nutshell...

Claim: Hurricane Katrina evacuees brought to Utah arrived bearing drugs and guns and immediately proceeded to sell drugs, attempt rapes, and rebuild street gangs.

Status: False.
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What I can say...

Publicly, Gas, Not much. In reference to new Guy Homer's post & Link, let me just say that even in a 100% lie, there is actually 20% truth. I have to remind everyone, that this is of course the "Internet" so of course there is a lot of BS floating around. To sum it up, there are a few bad apples in every barrel of apples ! Insert here the old saying about taking the 'Neck out of the woods, but he is still a 'Neck... get my drift ?


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these stories aside.... the mindset is alive and well down here.
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Our local shelter housed 35 Katrina Victims/Survivors. The Health department condemned the shelter and forced them to go elsewhere. Everybody was ranting about them being kicked out. In truth, They trashed the building.

Its supposed to be back in operation before the winter weather sets in.

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You might want to check this out:

http://www.snopes.com/katrina/personal/utah.asp


In a nutshell...

Claim: Hurricane Katrina evacuees brought to Utah arrived bearing drugs and guns and immediately proceeded to sell drugs, attempt rapes, and rebuild street gangs.

Status: False.
Reports of many rapes and murders at Super Dome turned out to be false also Its not a perfect world.
Jeeps few months ago in Vegas playing blackjack at $100 table MGM. Sitting next to me was firefighter 9/11 widow mid 30's. Tells me her and two sons moved to Vegas from Long Island after getting $millions from government and life insurance payments. Red cross gave her $75K for living expenses after 9/11. She also collects firefighter pension, which is more money than when her husband worked Jeeps feel any outrage for this lady blowing 9/11 money on gambling and drinking?

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Reports of many rapes and murders at Super Dome turned out to be false also Its not a perfect world.
Jeeps few months ago in Vegas playing blackjack at $100 table MGM. Sitting next to me was firefighter 9/11 widow mid 30's. Tells me her and two sons moved to Vegas from Long Island after getting $millions from government and life insurance payments. Red cross gave her $75K for living expenses after 9/11. She also collects firefighter pension, which is more money than when her husband worked Jeeps feel any outrage for this lady blowing 9/11 money on gambling and drinking?
I feel an outrage for any money wasted.
9/11 was a tragedy but, I was at finding some of the amounts paid.
I know the same is happening with Katrina victims. (not near as much) but, the wrong people getting the help (did not live in effected areas) and the people that don't deserve the help, outrages me even more. I did donate to the Red Cross and to our local shelter. Now they need hundreds of thousands just to get the doors open again on a facility that was renovated just a few years ago.

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Hey, I wasn't saying that there aren't bad people, that abuses of the systems don't take place, etc. Considering that rescue helicopters were fired upon when trying to rescue people, and you know that there are a lot of problem people. In fact, how about the woman who held up her FEMA issued credit card while a news crew photographed and published the photo. Tens of thousands of dollars in fraud on that card within hours.

Yep, a lot of bad people and a lot of waste of our tax money "helping people out" who put themselves in the situation. But we do that all of the time for wealthy people too (special federal insurance for the rich peeps who have houses on the NC coast).

Just wanted to flag the Utah story as
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Being a native of a suburb of New Orleans, this doesn't surprise me. New Orleans has always been a very destructive and corrupt city. This portion was never really reported worldwide until the hurricane brought this to light. Seeing the looting videos never shocked me one bit and I am surprised it shocked anyone with the quality of people that live in the area that was flooded in New Orleans.

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Being a native of a suburb of New Orleans, this doesn't surprise me. New Orleans has always been a very destructive and corrupt city. This portion was never really reported worldwide until the hurricane brought this to light. Seeing the looting videos never shocked me one bit and I am surprised it shocked anyone with the quality of people that live in the area that was flooded in New Orleans.
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Being a native of a suburb of New Orleans, this doesn't surprise me. New Orleans has always been a very destructive and corrupt city.
Like the Cops using brand new Cadillac's for cruiser instead of Chevy's or Ford's that where also spared from the flood.

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Exactly, or the two looting the walmart.

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Exactly, or the two looting the walmart.
but they needed that fishing gear so they could catch and eat the toxic fish. You know the D Nut store still wasn't open. j/k

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Reports of many rapes and murders at Super Dome turned out to be false also Its not a perfect world.
Jeeps few months ago in Vegas playing blackjack at $100 table MGM. Sitting next to me was firefighter 9/11 widow mid 30's. Tells me her and two sons moved to Vegas from Long Island after getting $millions from government and life insurance payments. Red cross gave her $75K for living expenses after 9/11. She also collects firefighter pension, which is more money than when her husband worked Jeeps feel any outrage for this lady blowing 9/11 money on gambling and drinking?
who cares what she does with that money, her husband died while on duty, so he's entitled to his pension.....and the millions she got was so that she and all the other family members that had loved one's die would not sue the airlines, since they are the ones that let those losers on their airplane and let them take it over and slam them into the WTC, it was better to do that then let court costs, airlines going out of buisness etc.....and I did not know there was a written rule that they could not spend any of their money on gambling or any other stipulations
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Yeah the WTC to NO camparoes don't really go together....

Way too many LARGE differences!




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