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New Window Tint Proposal...NOT GOOD!

Wanted to pass this on to everybody in Michigan. This is absolutely rediculous. Those that have your front doors tinted may want to really pay attention.

Basically, I guess that all people with their tinted front doors are cop killers!

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Web-posted Oct 16, 2005


Offense is now civil infraction with fines

By KANIQUA S. DANIEL
Of The Oakland Press

Customized cars with dark tinted windows may become a thing of the past if state Sen. Deborah Cherry has her way.

A bill introduced by Cherry, D-Burton, would stiffen penalties for illegal window tints with a $500 fine and up to 90 days in jail.

Currently, the offense is a civil infraction with fines determined by the jurisdiction in which the violation occurs. In most cases, an offender can have the tint removed within 30 days to avoid fines, which are usually about $90 with no points added to the license.

Window tinting was in the news this past week when Detroit Piston Darko Milicic was stopped by Sterling Heights police because of dark windows on his 2004 Audi. He said he had been driving it for more than a year and didn't know it was illegal.

Lt. Gerry Scherlinck of the Troy Police Department said window tint can be up to only 35 percent in terms of darkness on a vehicle's windshield and passenger- and driver-side windows, and the tint can not exceed 4 inches.

"You can do whatever you please to the back windows," he said. "When you see some of these cars that are totally darked out, that's illegal. It poses a threat to police officers (and emergency workers) trying to see inside the car."

Denise Flannery, legislative aide for Cherry, whose district includes a portion of Oakland County, said the bill was introduced in response to a recent event in which a police officer was concerned for his safety.

"We feel the current fines are not enough to deter the illegal use of window tinting," she said.

The bill has been referred to the Senate Committee on Transportation.

The only exemption to the current legislation is a signed doctor's note specifying the tint is needed for vision problems.

Leticia Weatherby, a 22-year-old nurse's aide from Waterford Township, said she has been pulled over at least twice for her tinted windows, which she said allows officers to see inside her vehicle.

Weatherby owns a twodoor 1996 Monte Carlo and had all of the windows, except the windshield, tinted in February.

"I was under the impression that the tint shop only did the legal amount," she said. "I agree people shouldn't be allowed to tint windows so darkly that it causes a problem with the law. But I don't understand why they allow these shops to apply illegal tint but ticket you for it."

Weatherby said it costs about $179 to have the windows tinted and about $300 to have the tint removed.

"I'm not taking it off," she said. "I had the windows tinted to keep the sun out of my face and out of my child's face. If it's illegal for people to have the tint, it should be illegal for the shops to put it on."

There are no laws prohibiting the installation of illegal tint. Roger Griffi ths, outside sales coordinator with Ameristar Auto Outfi tters in Waterford, which specializes in window tinting, said his company does warn customers of the consequences of illegal window tinting but will still perform the work.

Flannery said including window-tinting businesses in the bill was "not the direction we're taking right now."

Sgt. Nathaniel McQueen with the Michigan State Police said one of the issues is tinted windows are also offered by manufacturers.

"In some areas, such as Arizona and Texas, it's legal because of the heat index," he said. "There needs to be a regulation stating it is illegal for a secondary vendor to put it on. Otherwise, you run into problems with manufacturers.

"This is really something the state needs to look into. I would think anyone proposing legislation to increase the penalty for illegal tinting should include the businesses that are putting this tint on the windows." John Sturk and Kevin Curtin of the Capital News Service contributed to this story.
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I've stop tinting my fronts long ago. I got tired of the tickets. I now only tint the rears. I understand the argument of a cop not being able to see inside the vehicle as well as a celebrity wanting their privacy. I do find that having tints does provide an element of security, especially for a female. The tinted windows act as a deterent for those looking to violate a single occupied vehicle.
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I agree. I use to run double limo on the rears, limo on the front doors, and about half the windshield. But got tired of the cops and all...plus I lease the vechicles now and won't put the money into them on crap like that...




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Missouri approved front tint a couple years ago. My wife really wants her tinted to match the stock privacy glass in the rear but I'm scared the law is going to change back sometime then we'll be screwed.
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I tint....

all my vehicle's windows, however, I always stay within the states posted legal limits. I also lower my windows, switch my car off, and place my hands on the steering wheel in plain view of any approaching officer, on those rare occasions that I have been caught "Fracturing" so called "Speed Limit's"... it seems to help ! In GA people who have a medical condition which makes them prone to skin cancer can get a statement from there Dermatologist and tint all windows, including the front windshield ! They just have to keep the statement in thier vehicle at all times !


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Her pic explains everything...Fat ugly white liberal woman

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Bingo.
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Her pic explains everything...Fat ugly white liberal woman
YEP!! But what I don't get is if I looked like that and was in her position of power, I would trying to pass legislation to allow window tint so I would stop scaring away the people at McD's and that way I would get my damn food. Cause she's FUGLY!




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MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

In AZ Tinting is alsmost a necessity. We have a limit in the front (pretty dark), but no limit in the back.

Tint doesnt kill cops..plain and simple. If they cant see, then use flashlights. Thats what they are for anyway, seeing in dark areas. All government officials have them (I would think). I would assume thats a standard issue item. Sounds like she is pointing the finger at somthing other than the real problem... I hope you guys get to vote on this in Michigan!!!
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I have had 5% tinted windows on all most everyone of my vehicles, and those of you that know...I've had a lot of vehicles. I have never been pulled over for illegal tint! When I do get pulled over I always roll both windows down before the officer gets up to my window, just for the fact I don't know which window he will be coming to, and so he can't hound me about my illegal tint.
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Well, I can see the cops being concerned for their safety because I've been on several ride-alongs. I also agree that if they are going to ticket a person for having illegal tint, then the shops should not be allowed to install illegal tint. That's like saying having marijuana is illegal, but stores are still allowed to sell it to you as long as they warn you that it's illegal to have or smoke.
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Window tint kills cops like movies make kids violent.



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Window tint kills cops like movies make kids violent.

I agree...So instead of rolling over and taking it, fight back. Start a letter/email campaign and tell this women to sit down and shut up. Meanwhile, when was the last time you could see into a police cruiser through the tint to see what was inside???
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Well, I can see the cops being concerned for their safety because I've been on several ride-alongs. I also agree that if they are going to ticket a person for having illegal tint, then the shops should not be allowed to install illegal tint. That's like saying having marijuana is illegal, but stores are still allowed to sell it to you as long as they warn you that it's illegal to have or smoke.

I don't buy into the belief that the shops who install the tint should be responsible. Any shops I talked to about tinting always show in writting that only up to a certain % is legal. Anything above that is purely for "show" purposes. They do that to cover their own ass. I mean tint is used for other purposes than car windows (i.e. homes, buildings, etc.)
So if someone ignores the warning that certain $ tint is for "show" pourposes only and not street legal then thats their own problem.
Like someone said, whats next, my iridium shield on my helmet is illegal for what ever reasons. Blow me!
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What a stupid law. 90 days in jail for tinted windows? Leave it to some stupid Democrat senator to try something like that...

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seriously the jails are overcrowded already, so let's stick people who have illegal tinted windows in there instead of child molestors and rapists. I hate democrats and their terrible ideas on the legal system.

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seriously the jails are overcrowded already, so let's stick people who have illegal tinted windows in there instead of child molestors and rapists. I hate democrats and their terrible ideas on the legal system.
Don't worry. The democrats want to let the child molesters and rapist out of jail, so they'll be room for the traffic offenders. Didn't you know, rapists are just "misunderstood". The liberals think they need counseling, not jail.

I think they need a couple of 9mm rounds. Save the taxpayers the money of incarcerating them…

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I have my side and rear windows tinted to 20% visibility and my ENTIRE windshield at 35%. Good thing I live in Florida where this is illegal but nobody cares!
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