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Hey does anyone know what the max number of characters is for Illinois bike plates are? Im going to get personalized plates but I don't know if I can have the same number of characters on a bike plate as you can on car plates. Also I just went to the DMV and they told me its impossible to register a bike without the title. Meaning I would have to wait untill the seller pays off the loan with the money I give her and the bank sends her the title and then I can bring it in. Is that true? It doesn't seem right to me. I heard you can do it with like a bill of sale or something. Anyone else ever done this. I know its common for the seller to have to get the title from the bank so there has to be a way. I have no intentions of letting her sit in the garage till the title shows up but I would like to do it legally if possible.

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Hey does anyone know what the max number of characters is for Illinois bike plates are? Im going to get personalized plates but I don't know if I can have the same number of characters on a bike plate as you can on car plates. Also I just went to the DMV and they told me its impossible to register a bike without the title. Meaning I would have to wait untill the seller pays off the loan with the money I give her and the bank sends her the title and then I can bring it in. Is that true? It doesn't seem right to me. I heard you can do it with like a bill of sale or something. Anyone else ever done this. I know its common for the seller to have to get the title from the bank so there has to be a way. I have no intentions of letting her sit in the garage till the title shows up but I would like to do it legally if possible.
Yeah that's correct but could vary from state to state. You can't register a vehicle without the title as you would be the new owner. You can use a bill of sale to acquire a title if the original has been lost or destroyed. I've never heard of registering a vehicle with just a bill of sale.
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Yeah its a sucky deal but you will have to buy the bike then they pay it off and they usually wait 2 to 3 weeks for the bank to sign off the title to the old owner then to you. You may require a release of lien from the bank if they still have thier name on the tilte. But most of the time it gets redone in the owners name only but not always. It can be a mess and at least 3 to 4 weeks for you after you pay for it your self.
I sure Hope your getting a steller deal. I sometimes think you might do better with a more local purchase. But that is just my

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Yeah that's correct but could vary from state to state. You can't register a vehicle without the title as you would be the new owner. You can use a bill of sale to acquire a title if the original has been lost or destroyed. I've never heard of registering a vehicle with just a bill of sale.
I think you've got no choice but to sit tight.



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Maybe its just a michigan thing... but other than leases... the owner should have the title. You all go to the bank, have it paid off, the bank should sign off the lean on the title (actually written on the paper title) and maybe give you some form as well. Then the owner signs off his portion and you should be able to then take the title to the DMV and get it registered and plated.

If the bank is some out of town place... you should be able to just have them fax the lean holder release form. Take that and the title (signed over by the owner) to the DMV and get it all done.

But yeah there is no way to register or plate a vechicle w/o a title.

As far as characters... I think its 6 for most states.




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Huh well that kinda sucks. Oh well Ill figure something out. Maybe just ride it around on her plates for a few weeks.

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Where is the title and why can't you get it?



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the bank has it and when she pays it off it will still take them a while to send the title. When I paid off my car it took them two weeks to get the title to me.

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I think your outta luck man. This is a bike you are purchasing right?

BTW...what is it?



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If the lean is through Suzuki or the like, It could get complicated. If its through a bank, they will give you the necessary paperwork to register it while you or the new lean holder waits for the title. On average, most MC plates are one less number than a cage.

Even if you cant get paper work to register and she will let you ride on her plates. You should be able to put insurance on the bike any time. Just tell them you bought it and give vin number and other info. Don't bother telling them that its not titled in your name yet.

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6 digits in Illinois. Regarding the title, you can do what my brother did, but I wouldn't recommend it. He just rode using the seller's license plates for a while until he got the title. However, this is illegal. (He was still able to get insurance on it, even before it was titled to him, though.) Your only legal option is to wait.

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6 digits in Illinois. Regarding the title, you can do what my brother did, but I wouldn't recommend it. He just rode using the seller's license plates for a while until he got the title. However, this is illegal. (He was still able to get insurance on it, even before it was titled to him, though.) Your only legal option is to wait.
I know some people who have done this...



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