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thoughts on starter gear for me.

Hey I have been looking a ton lately and I think I've decided on which gear to get.

Helmet: Fulmer AFD4 with the flat black joust graphic. 100 bucks at a local dealer.
http://www.fulmerhelmets.com/Product/afd4.html

Jacket: Cortech GX air jacket with leather. Or do you guys think the HRX is 45 dollars better? I can't find any big differences. It is 161 dollars at ridegear.com and the HRX is 206 i think. Both would be the silver color.
GX: http://tourmaster.com/xcart/product....ctid=10&cat=25
HRX: http://tourmaster.com/xcart/product....uctid=2&cat=25

Gloves: Cortech HDX gloves. 35 dollars at ridegear. Again, silver.
http://tourmaster.com/xcart/product....tid=186&cat=29

For first I will be wearing jeans and really comfy hiking boots until I can afford leather pants.

Tell me if you guys have had any experience with these or any other suggestions for similar priced gear.
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nobody has experience with these products?
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I dont have experience with Cortex but I've heard solid things about them.



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my buddy used to have a fulmer helmet. the visors scratch very easily. his turned yellow kinda fast too.

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I went to 5 different stores looking for helmets more than anything. Only one had scorpion and they had 1 that was on the top shelf where you couldn't put it on, so I wasn't able to try one on. 3 of them carried fulmer and I thought they were pretty comfortable and very affordable.
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Cortech stuff are inexpensive and solid. I have the SCARAB gloves and I love them. Good for most of the year except for winter since that it's well ventilated. Comfortable as hell too.

The Fulmer is a cheap Chinese helmet that isn't pretty but will do the job if you're short on cash. I believe that it meets both DOT and Snell crash standards.

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Yes, it is snell and dot approved. I thought about getting their modular helmet but it is 25 bucks more expensive and I dont foresee myself riding with the chin up that much anyway. And it only passes DOT and not snell.
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Cortech stuff are inexpensive and solid. I have the SCARAB gloves and I love them. Good for most of the year except for winter since that it's well ventilated. Comfortable as hell too.

The Fulmer is a cheap Chinese helmet that isn't pretty but will do the job if you're short on cash. I believe that it meets both DOT and Snell crash standards.
fulmer isnt snell aproved. i've got one for passengers. its perdy and gets the job done, but i wouldnt trust it in a serious accident.
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fulmer isnt snell aproved. i've got one for passengers. its perdy and gets the job done, but i wouldnt trust it in a serious accident.
Why not? It's DOT approved? Then it would be fine.



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Gloves: Cortech HDX gloves. 35 dollars at ridegear. Again, silver.
http://tourmaster.com/xcart/product....tid=186&cat=29

Tell me if you guys have had any experience with these or any other suggestions for similar priced gear.
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Cortech stuff are inexpensive and solid. I have the SCARAB gloves and I love them. Good for most of the year except for winter since that it's well ventilated. Comfortable as hell too.
I don't know about their short cuff gloves, but the Scarab RRs look like what I'm looking for. If they're quality, $80 isn't a bad price.

FN- what is all the "Carbon/Titanium" stuff? How does that little chunk feel on the palm? Know anywhere that has 'em on sale? How is sizing compared to A* or JR gloves?

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For starter gear I suggest check out newenough.com and their clearance section. So far I got a full face helmet for $46 for my wife and myself and a Cortech jacket for $62 (which is now in the "Bargain Basement" section for like $50! )
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I have the Cortech GX Sport jacket. Its very bulky even if youy take the quilted liner out. Provides great warm in colder weather and has CE armor in the elbows and shoulders. I have no doubts that the jacket will provide very good protection, I just wish it wasnt so bulky.
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Why not? It's DOT approved? Then it would be fine.
In general you ALWAYS want DOT and snell approval. The snell testing process is far more rigorous and all decent helmets will have snell approval. There are various grades, and I believe snell 2005 is the most recent and best.

In general, more money will just get your more comfort and less wind noise. However, make sure that you have both dot and snell approvals no matter how much you decide to spend.

Don't f&*k around when it comes to your dome.
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In general you ALWAYS want DOT and snell approval. The snell testing process is far more rigorous and all decent helmets will have snell approval. There are various grades, and I believe snell 2005 is the most recent and best.

In general, more money will just get your more comfort and less wind noise. However, make sure that you have both dot and snell approvals no matter how much you decide to spend.

Don't f&*k around when it comes to your dome.
There is a lot of controversy over Helmet ratings. Snell tests are different from DOT, which are different from BSA. Each tests for some different characteristics. You MUST have DOT certification for a helmet to be legal in the US. The others are a plus, and requirements vary between organizations. Which means one is not necessarily better than the others.
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There is a lot of controversy over Helmet ratings. Snell tests are different from DOT, which are different from BSA. Each tests for some different characteristics. You MUST have DOT certification for a helmet to be legal in the US. The others are a plus, and requirements vary between organizations. Which means one is not necessarily better than the others.
Right, however I believe it is well known that the snell tests are more rigorous in general. Also, the more certifications the better, obviously.

Note that the snell organization was started after a guy wearing a helmet died because his LEGAL helmet failed in a crash.

I personally would never buy a helmet that only had DOT approval.
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Right, however I believe it is well known that the snell tests are more rigorous in general. Also, the more certifications the better, obviously.

Note that the snell organization was started after a guy wearing a helmet died because his LEGAL helmet failed in a crash.

I personally would never buy a helmet that only had DOT approval.
Okay- that's fine. My RF-1000 is Snell rated, so I'm not complaining either way. It just fit me better than anything else.

One way I've heard the differences explained is this: Snell is more of a racing standard rather than street. They use a different shape to test collisions, different/higher speeds, and several impacts to the same point.
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I don't know about their short cuff gloves, but the Scarab RRs look like what I'm looking for. If they're quality, $80 isn't a bad price.

FN- what is all the "Carbon/Titanium" stuff? How does that little chunk feel on the palm? Know anywhere that has 'em on sale? How is sizing compared to A* or JR gloves?
Carbon/titanium stuff? I don't even notice them when I wear the gloves. They are very comfortable. The liner inside serves both as additional cushion and as sweat wicker. The sizing is fairly similar to Joe Rocket since that I have a Joe Rocket something or another gloves that fit pretty well. Don't know about Alpine Star gloves.

PS As far as helmets go, a Fulmer is better than a Nazi turtle shell or bandana wrapping. If all one can get is a Fulmer, then that's all one can get. Better than a sharp poke on the head with a foreign object.


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Carbon/titanium stuff? I don't even notice them when I wear the gloves. They are very comfortable. The liner inside serves both as additional cushion and as sweat wicker. The sizing is fairly similar to Joe Rocket since that I have a Joe Rocket something or another gloves that fit pretty well. Don't know about Alpine Star gloves.

PS As far as helmets go, a Fulmer is better than a Nazi turtle shell or bandana wrapping. If all one can get is a Fulmer, then that's all one can get. Better than a sharp poke on the head with a foreign object.
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SNELL vs DOT... it is not a cut and dry question. Some say the the SNELL helments are too hard and will leave your brain scrambled in the most typical type of crash. Here is an interesting article on the subject:
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ge...helmet_review/
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In general you ALWAYS want DOT and snell approval. The snell testing process is far more rigorous and all decent helmets will have snell approval. There are various grades, and I believe snell 2005 is the most recent and best.

In general, more money will just get your more comfort and less wind noise. However, make sure that you have both dot and snell approvals no matter how much you decide to spend.

Don't f&*k around when it comes to your dome.
I know all about Snell and DOT brother. I'm not a Snell type of guy. A DOT lid will do just fine. Do some research.



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