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I have been reading up on a few forums about riding gear. I have found that many people have been complaining about ICON gear. I have not found any reasons why ICON is a horrible product or examples. To me, ICON has some good gear like Joe Rocket or Alpine Stars. What is up with the hate towards ICON? I am looking into buying some gear from them soon after my deployment. The denim pants paired with the armour and shorts would be fine for me. What is your take?
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I have been reading up on a few forums about riding gear. I have found that many people have been complaining about ICON gear. I have not found any reasons why ICON is a horrible product or examples. To me, ICON has some good gear like Joe Rocket or Alpine Stars. What is up with the hate towards ICON? I am looking into buying some gear from them soon after my deployment. The denim pants paired with the armour and shorts would be fine for me. What is your take?
Icon historically has focused on LOOKS and not protection. The quality of the construction isn't quite as good as Joe Rocket, and not NEAR the quality of Alpinestars. Many Icon jackets do not feature CE approved protection in the elbows/shoulders/spine (which is pretty much standard in most higher-quality gear). And some Icon gear is just somewhat "disposeable" in that some of it won't last more than one riding season (I've seen this partiocularly with their gloves).

That said, I think they are little by little improving the quality and safety features of their offerings, AND we do have to credit them with the recent surge in OTHER manufacturers coming out with flashier, more colorful and unique designs on their gear (as opposed to the traditional single or two-color offerings).

And I read something recently that mentioned Icon would soon be offering full track leathers, so that alone says they're working hard to make a better, safer product.


Whatever complaints anyone has about Icon gear, however (i.e. there've been countless threads on other forums about the Icon Kitty line, and it being bright pink or blue), and that people who wear that kind of thing are only riding for the attention, etc... My thinking is this: I'd much rather someone be in head-to-toe hot pink leather with fringe than in no gear at all. If by offering "cute" or "blingy" gear, it gets someone who previously objected to wearing gear to think twice about it, then I'm all for it.

And as a sidenote: I've heard many, many complaints about Icon helmets being of inferior quality. However, many people fail to realize they're actually produced by HJC (so they're a good middle-of-the-road lid... not the quality of Shoei, Arai and Suomy, but better than the entry-level lids).
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Icon historically has focused on LOOKS and not protection. The quality of the construction isn't quite as good as Joe Rocket, and not NEAR the quality of Alpinestars. Many Icon jackets do not feature CE approved protection in the elbows/shoulders/spine (which is pretty much standard in most higher-quality gear). And some Icon gear is just somewhat "disposeable" in that some of it won't last more than one riding season (I've seen this partiocularly with their gloves).

That said, I think they are little by little improving the quality and safety features of their offerings, AND we do have to credit them with the recent surge in OTHER manufacturers coming out with flashier, more colorful and unique designs on their gear (as opposed to the traditional single or two-color offerings).

And I read something recently that mentioned Icon would soon be offering full track leathers, so that alone says they're working hard to make a better, safer product.


Whatever complaints anyone has about Icon gear, however (i.e. there've been countless threads on other forums about the Icon Kitty line, and it being bright pink or blue), and that people who wear that kind of thing are only riding for the attention, etc... My thinking is this: I'd much rather someone be in head-to-toe hot pink leather with fringe than in no gear at all. If by offering "cute" or "blingy" gear, it gets someone who previously objected to wearing gear to think twice about it, then I'm all for it.

And as a sidenote: I've heard many, many complaints about Icon helmets being of inferior quality. However, many people fail to realize they're actually produced by HJC (so they're a good middle-of-the-road lid... not the quality of Shoei, Arai and Suomy, but better than the entry-level lids).
That pretty much sums it up. I have a pair of Icon gloves. They are ok. The fit and finish isn't as top quality as other gloves. They won't 'break in'. So take that for what it's worth. Probly the last pair of Icon anything I'd buy.



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I consider ICON to be squidly gear, its all about looks and nothing about protection. I wont ever own anything form ICON.
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I consider ICON to be squidly gear, its all about looks and nothing about protection. I wont ever own anything form ICON.
Def. marketed to squidman jones. But I like my gloves. They have nice protection....CF knuckles, lots of padding. But where are their F$&King leathers?



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Thanks for clearing some things up for me. The looks are good and the color selection is great that ICON provides. Right now I use a Scorpion EXO-400, Tecknic Chicane leather jacket, and Icon Superduty gloves.

I guess I will wait for a few more riding seasons to see what they offer and improve upon. I know for a fact that their helmets are not as great. That is why I am going to buy a Scorpion EXO-700 soon. I guess I am going to have to suck it up and wear black gear from other brands,LOL. The only yellow I will have is the helmet and bike. I rather take quality over looks any day.
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Thanks for clearing some things up for me. The looks are good and the color selection is great that ICON provides. Right now I use a Scorpion EXO-400, Tecknic Chicane leather jacket, and Icon Superduty gloves.

I guess I will wait for a few more riding seasons to see what they offer and improve upon. I know for a fact that their helmets are not as great. That is why I am going to buy a Scorpion EXO-700 soon. I guess I am going to have to suck it up and wear black gear from other brands,LOL. The only yellow I will have is the helmet and bike. I rather take quality over looks any day.
The most important thing is fit. If it doesn't fit right it doesn't matter what brand it is....it wont work. I'd strongly suggest looking into riding pants and boots. Most injuries happen below the waist.



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The most important thing is fit. If it doesn't fit right it doesn't matter what brand it is....it wont work. I'd strongly suggest looking into riding pants and boots. Most injuries happen below the waist.
What are some good pants that won't break the bank?
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Icon historically has focused on LOOKS and not protection. The quality of the construction isn't quite as good as Joe Rocket, and not NEAR the quality of Alpinestars. Many Icon jackets do not feature CE approved protection in the elbows/shoulders/spine (which is pretty much standard in most higher-quality gear). And some Icon gear is just somewhat "disposeable" in that some of it won't last more than one riding season (I've seen this partiocularly with their gloves).

That said, I think they are little by little improving the quality and safety features of their offerings, AND we do have to credit them with the recent surge in OTHER manufacturers coming out with flashier, more colorful and unique designs on their gear (as opposed to the traditional single or two-color offerings).

And I read something recently that mentioned Icon would soon be offering full track leathers, so that alone says they're working hard to make a better, safer product.


Whatever complaints anyone has about Icon gear, however (i.e. there've been countless threads on other forums about the Icon Kitty line, and it being bright pink or blue), and that people who wear that kind of thing are only riding for the attention, etc... My thinking is this: I'd much rather someone be in head-to-toe hot pink leather with fringe than in no gear at all. If by offering "cute" or "blingy" gear, it gets someone who previously objected to wearing gear to think twice about it, then I'm all for it.

And as a sidenote: I've heard many, many complaints about Icon helmets being of inferior quality. However, many people fail to realize they're actually produced by HJC (so they're a good middle-of-the-road lid... not the quality of Shoei, Arai and Suomy, but better than the entry-level lids).
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That was the main gear I wanted to get was some good yet affordable riding boots and pants. I know the fit is the most important thing when looking at gear. I got my sizes down so when I order on-line I will be G2G.
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Right now I use a Scorpion EXO-400, Tecknic Chicane leather jacket, and Icon Superduty gloves.
Your jacket and lid are decent stuff...

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The marketing department at Icon does have a different strategy than other manufacturers like Alpinestars. However, these other manufacturers are now starting to realize that making attractive, trendy or "unique" gear is a profitable niche. They're all doing it now.

As far as quality, nothing speaks more to that than going down in gear and/or long term use and durability. Our reviews do neither, but all of the gear we've tested were of good to excellent quality when it comes to construction and materials. I don't know of any big-name apparel maker that can get away with sub-par manufacturing processes or materials. That may have been the case in the past, but no more.

Of course there are still inexpensive imports out there and even counterfeits. Be careful where you buy your gear and make sure you're getting the real deal.
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Being that I have crash tested the Icon Superduty Gloves.. I can vouch for their protection... the only damage to my hand was caused by my watch pin digging into my wrist... nothing else... There where some other holes in the gloves but no rash to my hands...

You can say what you want but they did their job and I was happy with them.
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Why would you want to own anything made by a company that made this piece of ****?

http://newenough.com/closeouts/glove...le_gloves.html


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Why would you want to own anything made by a company that made this piece of ****?

http://newenough.com/closeouts/glove...le_gloves.html

Careful now, Tigger(TWF member) wears those.
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Careful now, Tigger(TWF member) wears those.
Does he transform into an 18-wheeler and have his own movie coming out in July? Those gloves are hideous.

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http://newenough.com/closeouts/glove...le_gloves.html

what you've never seen the skit where the Power Rangers meet the Transformers...

Those gloves has a lot of Bling to sport... for all we know that could shoot off a lot of sparks while sliding across the ground....
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Great, bash my my gloves. And I was planning on wearing them to the gap next week



















j/k Those are seriously fugly.
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Great, bash my my gloves. And I was planning on wearing them to the gap next week




















j/k Those are seriously fugly.
I was going to say, you wore those gloves when your ZX-10 was green?
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Those gloves are . I am looking going to buy the 2007 Teknic Lightning series gloves and jacket which are leather. The Scorpion EXO-700 is on it's way to my house as we speak. Also they come in yellow which some what matches my 50th Ann. My new problem is where can I get some decent pants? I might have to bite the bullet and get the ICON Anthem pants to go with the leg armour that I all ready have. A few guys that I ride with use the ICON armour and have gone down with it on. They were fine and walked away from it. One friend was hit by a truck when it pulled in front of him. My riding is mostly in the hills and twisties but we make some stops to eat and gas up.
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