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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 09-19-2007, 01:59 AM Thread Starter
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helmet on sale...WHEN??

im just wondering if local store or online store put helmets on sale on specific month im thinking that winder is coming up so local store want to get rid of their old helmets to make room for new

and are KBC helmets any good

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dude check out the shoei tz-r's. theyre sweet looking helmets. mid $200 range. not bad for a shoei. but i would check online stores b/c they always have a deal on a specific helmet model.
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In general, stores don't tend to 'clear out' all of their helmets (even if they should). When you buy a helmet, you want to look inside the liner for a little sticker with the date of manufacture (recently a local dealer had a big "blow out" sale on some Arais... but when you looked at the born-on date, they were 2 even 3 years old). Helmets do have a shelf life (I've heard it ranges anywhere from 2 to 4 years, depending on frequency of use, and how well it's maintained), so you want to find the newest one you can.

KBC's are okay in my opinion, but if you can swing it, the above-mentioned Shoei would probably be a superior lid.
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In general, stores don't tend to 'clear out' all of their helmets (even if they should). When you buy a helmet, you want to look inside the liner for a little sticker with the date of manufacture (recently a local dealer had a big "blow out" sale on some Arais... but when you looked at the born-on date, they were 2 even 3 years old). Helmets do have a shelf life (I've heard it ranges anywhere from 2 to 4 years, depending on frequency of use, and how well it's maintained), so you want to find the newest one you can.

KBC's are okay in my opinion, but if you can swing it, the above-mentioned Shoei would probably be a superior lid.
blow out sale on Arais? dang those helmets are sweeeeet. the paint quality on em are better than the quality on my bike
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I wouldnt read too much into a helmet going bad over time. Sounds pretty silly to me. You show me some real tests and maybe I'll believe it. If it was any risk the companies would have to put it the disclaimers and warnings inside the manual and Ive never seen anything like that

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If you are looking for cheap helmets, I can hook you up with an ICON Mainframe Manic or an ICON Mainframe Legion Silver brand new for $139
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I wouldnt read too much into a helmet going bad over time. Sounds pretty silly to me. You show me some real tests and maybe I'll believe it. If it was any risk the companies would have to put it the disclaimers and warnings inside the manual and Ive never seen anything like that
The material that absorbs shock on impact an get brittle over time depending on how it's been stored, if it's been exposed to temp extremes, etc... Sure, if it's stored under ideal conditions, in the manuf's box, etc... all that time, if it hasn't been on the dealer's showroom floor, tried one 100x, maybe knocked down, smacked into by 1000 customers, etc..., then it's probably fine. The problem is, you just don't know.
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From Helmet safety Institute


"Occasionally somebody spreads rumors that sweat and ultraviolet (UV) exposure will cause your helmet to degrade. Sweat will not do that. The standards do not permit manufacturers to make a helmet that degrades from sweat, and the EPS, EPP or EPU foam is remarkably unaffected by salt water. Your helmet will get a terminal case of grunge before it dies of sweat. UV can affect the strength of the shell material, though. Since helmets spend a lot of time in the sun, manufacturers usually put UV inhibitors in the plastic for their shells that control UV degradation. If your helmet is fading, maybe the UV inhibitors are failing, so you probably should replace it. Chances are it has seen an awful lot of sun to have that happen. Otherwise, try another brand next time and let us know what brand faded on you.

At least one shop told a customer that the EPS in his three year old helmet was now "dried out." That is highly unlikely, unless the EPS is placed in an oven for some period of time and baked. The interior of your car, for example, will not do that, based on helmets we have seen and at least one lab crash test of a helmet always kept in a car in Virginia over many summers. EPS is a long-lived material little affected by normal environmental factors. Unless you mistreat it we would not expect it to "dry out" enough to alter its performance for many years.

In sum, we don't find the case for replacing a helmet that meets the ASTM or Snell standards that compelling if the helmet is still in good shape and fits you well. "

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The material that absorbs shock on impact an get brittle over time depending on how it's been stored, if it's been exposed to temp extremes, etc... Sure, if it's stored under ideal conditions, in the manuf's box, etc... all that time, if it hasn't been on the dealer's showroom floor, tried one 100x, maybe knocked down, smacked into by 1000 customers, etc..., then it's probably fine. The problem is, you just don't know.
Plus your sweat and any hair products used(gel, hairspay, etc......) can brak down the protective cusion inside the helmet. I dont know this to be true, but spending $300+ every 5 years to ensure my head is safe is worth it to me.
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Plus your sweat and any hair products used(gel, hairspay, etc......) can brak down the protective cusion inside the helmet. I dont know this to be true, but spending $300+ every 5 years to ensure my head is safe is worth it to me.
The standards for the materials used in the helmets dont react to them. The main reason certain companies suggest this is

1. So you buy more helmets
2. So you put your head into the newest safety technology on the market

If your riding with a helmet from 1989 or below they weren't held to the same safety standards. You might as well throw it away unless you are attached to it and hey its better than nothing at all.

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The standards for the materials used in the helmets dont react to them. The main reason certain companies suggest this is

1. So you buy more helmets
2. So you put your head into the newest safety technology on the market

If your riding with a helmet from 1989 or below they weren't held to the same safety standards. You might as well throw it away unless you are attached to it and hey its better than nothing at all.
Fair enough. SNELL comes out with a new standard every 5 years too.
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Fair enough. SNELL comes out with a new standard every 5 years too.
Yeah but from 1990 till now there really hasnt been any significant changes

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"Occasionally somebody spreads rumors that sweat and ultraviolet (UV) exposure will cause your helmet to degrade. Sweat will not do that. The standards do not permit manufacturers to make a helmet that degrades from sweat, and the EPS, EPP or EPU foam is remarkably unaffected by salt water. Your helmet will get a terminal case of grunge before it dies of sweat. UV can affect the strength of the shell material, though. Since helmets spend a lot of time in the sun, manufacturers usually put UV inhibitors in the plastic for their shells that control UV degradation. If your helmet is fading, maybe the UV inhibitors are failing, so you probably should replace it. Chances are it has seen an awful lot of sun to have that happen. Otherwise, try another brand next time and let us know what brand faded on you.

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In sum, we don't find the case for replacing a helmet that meets the ASTM or Snell standards that compelling if the helmet is still in good shape and fits you well. "
Really interesting stuff. Cool!! Good post!
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