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Gear of choice?

I'm looking for words of advise and first hand opinions of gear.

Specifically I'm looking at 2 different jackets. The Joe Rocket Speedmaster 5.0 and the other is a Teknic Lightning or Chicane I haven't decided which color scheme I like better till I see them both in person. Not that I care about the color that much anyways.

I'm more interested in what you guys think of Quality of jacket in the Teknic brand as I'm not very familiar with it. I have been looking at them alot and like the Joe Rocket one a bit more but just trying to justify the aprox. $100 price jump from what i have found on the net.

Has anyone tried either jacket before and have any help?
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Teknic is good chit. Joe Rocket is ok stuff. Buy the one that fits the best and feels like it offers the most protection.
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Teknic and JR make good stuff. Not quite as nice as A*, and they're cut differently. Teknic jackets are shorter in the arms and JR is bigger in the chest/middle. A* has longer arms and tapers down from the shoulders to the waist.

I've tried on a Teknic Lightning Jacket, and JR Blaster 3.0 and own the A* Spinner. I like the JR Speedmaster pants- they fit pretty close to my A* Track pants (kind of long and narrow).

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Teknic is good chit. Joe Rocket is ok stuff. Buy the one that fits the best and feels like it offers the most protection.
A* has a good rep too.
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Thanks for all the input guys. For various reasons I have never liked A* very much. They make the best MX boots period! Their jackets have never fit me well as I'm a little soft in the middle. I also don't have a dealer of A* that close to me that has a very wide product selection. South Central IN seams to be ATV country here. lol I have had a JR textile jacket I was borrowing from a friend that I liked except it was 1 size smaller than I wear. I just didn't know how the Teknic brand compared for durability.

Thanks for all the input as I will be going to test fit some jackets on tuesday before I order any.

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consider weather... dont get something you're never gonna wear cause its too hot or too cold.
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i understand jr isint all that durable. point in fact i have jr gloves and they are kinda falling apart
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Thanks Guys. As far as weather I'm not too worried about that too much as long as the jacket has decent ventilation it will be fine for what I do. The main perk i need is a 360 zipper for pant attachment because I was told that the track I'm going to try to frequent this season requires either 1 piece suits or 2 piece with full zipper attachment. That rules out Icon I think because they don't have a full zipper for pants to my knowledge.

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i understand jr isint all that durable. point in fact i have jr gloves and they are kinda falling apart
The low end JR gloves suck. Their pricier stuff is better quality.

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Thanks Guys. As far as weather I'm not too worried about that too much as long as the jacket has decent ventilation it will be fine for what I do. The main perk i need is a 360 zipper for pant attachment because I was told that the track I'm going to try to frequent this season requires either 1 piece suits or 2 piece with full zipper attachment. That rules out Icon I think because they don't have a full zipper for pants to my knowledge.

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Don't worry too much about zippers. As long as you get one piece (pants or jacket) with a zipper, you can get it sewn on the other. Shift has decent jackets too- but they're a strange cut.

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I have a teknic textile jacket now and love it. I am looking at getting the Chicane 1-piece suit come summer.
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I ride in Olympia AST jacket and Moose Expedition pants, though when on the track i wear www.kobeusa.com leathers

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Whatever you do, don't get textile.

It won't save your skin. I have some pants to prove my theory if you would like to see.

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Whatever you do, don't get textile.

It won't save your skin. I have some pants to prove my theory if you would like to see.

Thats like saying don't ride Honda because of a bad low side that totaled your bike.

Textile suits and gear is abrasion tested to a higher level than that of leather, In almost all cases a textile "NOT MESH TECH" will proved a higher level ofprotection, Leather will in some cases be able to be repaired where textiles can't and thus the reason behind non pro-level riders wearing leather suit instead of textiles.

I can and do ride with a ballistic jacket and pants and i have crashed in textile and yep i needed to replace the jacket and pants but i did not get any more or less affected because of the textile.

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Thats like saying don't ride Honda because of a bad low side that totaled your bike.

Textile suits and gear is abrasion tested to a higher level than that of leather, In almost all cases a textile "NOT MESH TECH" will proved a higher level ofprotection, Leather will in some cases be able to be repaired where textiles can't and thus the reason behind non pro-level riders wearing leather suit instead of textiles.

I can and do ride with a ballistic jacket and pants and i have crashed in textile and yep i needed to replace the jacket and pants but i did not get any more or less affected because of the textile.
riggghhhtt....

Which is why race suits are made out of textile and not leather?

Your metaphor makes no sense. I'm not trying to take business away from you, I'm trying to keep the guy safe. One little scuff of a textile garment on the pavement and it will wear through. I have the ballistic pants and "dragged a knee" with them up on the Dragon and they were toast after that one little issue.

Stay safe, get leather.

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Thats like saying don't ride Honda because of a bad low side that totaled your bike.

Textile suits and gear is abrasion tested to a higher level than that of leather, In almost all cases a textile "NOT MESH TECH" will proved a higher level ofprotection, Leather will in some cases be able to be repaired where textiles can't and thus the reason behind non pro-level riders wearing leather suit instead of textiles.

I can and do ride with a ballistic jacket and pants and i have crashed in textile and yep i needed to replace the jacket and pants but i did not get any more or less affected because of the textile.
lol i cant wait to hear all of the solid advice this guy has to offer.


leather will save your ass in a bad accident, where rash is a factor. like sliding on the pavement 80 feet. as far as impact absorbtion, you're pretty much screwed no matter what you're wearing. armor can only withstand so much, but is typically better in a leather suit because in a text jacket it has a tendancy to move around and not be where it needs to be in an accident.

a textile jacket will last ONE wreck ONLY. good leather gear can take a lickin and keep on tickin, depending on the scenario.

textile is great for summer riding, its better than nothing. leather is king.


:edit: there are so many things wrong with that quote i cant even begin to pick it apart.
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riggghhhtt....

Which is why race suits are made out of textile and not leather?

Your metaphor makes no sense. I'm not trying to take business away from you, I'm trying to keep the guy safe. One little scuff of a textile garment on the pavement and it will wear through. I have the ballistic pants and "dragged a knee" with them up on the Dragon and they were toast after that one little issue.

Stay safe, get leather.
fear not this is not a matter of taking business from me as i am the world largest stocking dealer of www.kobeusa.com racing leathers.

Racing leathers are not used specifically because they are safe not at all they are used specifically because they are repairable

and most Track day companies allow textile suits to be worn

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I have the ballistic pants and "dragged a knee" with them up on the Dragon and they were toast after that one little issue.
And i assure you the same would have happened with leathers without knee pucks

Simply put the textile stuff is as good and in many aspects better than leather Think carbon fiber vs AL pound for pound Carbon fiber is stronger and weighs less! not to mention with synthetics they can and do design in certain qualities that they find desirable such as being better able to cope with abrasion resistence, they can't do that with real leather you get what you get.

Bottom line textiles are safe and have been tested as safe and so are leathers

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fear not this is not a matter of taking business from me as i am the world largest stocking dealer of www.kobeusa.com racing leathers.

Racing leathers are not used specifically because they are safe not at all they are used specifically because they are repairable

and most Track day companies allow textile suits to be worn



And i assure you the same would have happened with leathers without knee pucks

Simply put the textile stuff is as good and in many aspects better than leather Think carbon fiber vs AL pound for pound Carbon fiber is stronger and weighs less! not to mention with synthetics they can and do design in certain qualities that they find desirable such as being better able to cope with abrasion resistence, they can't do that with real leather you get what you get.

Bottom line textiles are safe and have been tested as safe and so are leathers
racing leathers are used because they offer the best protection in high speed crashes. period. who the **** is out there repairing leathers? sure you can re-stitch a seam or two, but dont you think people racing in the Moto GP can afford an extra suit if they go down.

no, not most tracks allow textiles. textile gear has MANY more restrictions at the track.


yes , textile stuff is as good as leathers. but for different reasons. textile is cheaper. textile is cooler. textile is easier to take care of. textile is versatile.

strictly speaking of safety, nothing beats a leather suit.
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strictly speaking of safety, nothing beats a leather suit.
Thats not entirely true though it is the perceived idea at this time, kinda like back when everyone believed the world was flat


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who the **** is out there repairing leathers?
Lots of people repair leathers and alebit they are not completely reconstructing them, that is easier and more cost effective than with a textile. I have seen several suits come in for repair that were torn and needed large areas replaced and reinforced

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sure you can re-stitch a seam or two, but dont you think people racing in the Moto GP can afford an extra suit if they go down.

I said in the non pro racing, The MotoGP suits are now more than ever more synthetic then top quality leather, just look at every place that allows movement it is now some type of ballistic material so even the top level racers with more money then most and never wear the same suit twice are wearing hybrid suits thus furthering the idea that ballistic material is safe and effective and desireable

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And i assure you the same would have happened with leathers without knee pucks
Nein.

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