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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-15-2008, 12:23 PM Thread Starter
 
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Military speak up!

OK, so whats the deal with the Mil Spec vest by Icon? i was thinkin about gettin it, but it seems a lil overboard. I know the military standard is havina visible 12x12 reflective piece on your chest ( or somethin like that, dont remember the reg), so i was wonderin what ppl do to comply with the PPE. ive got a vest, but most of the time, i can get away with a PT belt.

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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-16-2008, 07:06 PM
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Some base make the vest a requirement, but all i do is like you said is use the reflective belt. My squadron says its manditory to wear while riding on or off base, but no ever does. As long as you have enough reflective material on , you are good to go. What branch are you and and where r u stationed. I am currently station @ Hill AFB, UT.

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post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-17-2008, 02:04 AM
 
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DoD regulations say the following:
Garment Visibility. A brightly colored outer upper garment during the day and a reflective upper garment during the night. Outer upper garment shall be clearly visible and not covered.

Air Force pretty much says the same thing, but I know some bases are more restrictive. Just check with your unit safety POC, or ask the installation safety office.
For riding here at Andersen, Guam, I found a Pilot jacket that's all orange with reflective piping that I wear because it's mesh. It's not the greatest looking thing, but we all know, "safety first!"
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post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-17-2008, 01:11 PM
 
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Reflective Armour

here is a site that might be able to help you out.

www.ridegear.com/rg/item/F-45592/Power-Trip/A...

I like the Flak Jacket because you have everything you need right there and dont have to carry extrs gear if you don't want to.
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post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old 08-18-2008, 01:02 AM
 
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I can't speak for Army, Air Force or Marines but Navy CNO regs say that during the day, brightly colored clothing and reflective material is optional, and there's no more reg on how much reflective material al night. As long as there's somthing reflective on your body, you're good.

Anything stating otherwise is a base reg...

I just laugh at all these guys I see wearing those ICON vests...
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The AF regs only say "contrasting" it doesn't mention anything about reflective or 'bright/day-glo' colors. As far as a PT belt goes, it is usually up to the installation commander how they enforce the regs. Try it, the worst they can do is turn you away from the gate.


That being said I have the original Icon Mil-Spec vest and don't really care much for it since it doesn't breathe and gets quite warm underneath. I understand the new ones are mesh.

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Per AFI 91-207 US Air Force Traffic Safety Program, this is what it states:

3.4.2.4. Personal Protection Equipment:

3.4.2.4.1. Head Protection. A helmet designed to meet or exceed Department of Transportation
(DOT) standards, shall be worn and properly fastened under the chin. Host nation equivalent
is acceptable if it meets or exceeds the DOT standard. Commanders may authorize use of
tactical helmets in appropriate off-road training or operating environments after completing an
ORM evaluation.
3.4.2.4.2. Eye Protection. Goggles, wrap around glasses, or a full-face shield (properly
attached to helmet) designed to meet or exceed American National Standards Institute (ANSI)
Standard Z87.1 for impact and shatter resistance will be worn. A windshield does not constitute
proper eye protection. Host nation equivalent is acceptable if it meets or exceeds ANSI
Standard Z87.1 for impact and shatter resistance.
3.4.2.4.3. Protective Clothing. Wear of long sleeved shirt or jacket, long trousers, and full-fingered
gloves are required. Gloves should be sturdy, non-slip type to permit a firm grip on the
controls. Wear of a motorcycle jacket and pants constructed of abrasion resistant materials
such as leather, KevlarŽ, and/or CorduraŽ containing impact absorbing padding are strongly
encouraged.
3.4.2.4.4. Foot Protection. Riders will wear sturdy over the ankle footwear that affords protection
for the feet and ankles (durable athletic shoes that cover the ankles may be worn). Sandals,
low quarter sneakers, and similar footwear will not be used.
3.4.2.4.5. Garment and Motorcycle Visibility. Motorcycle riders will wear a brightly colored
outer upper garment during the day and a reflective upper garment during the night. Outer
upper garment shall be visible and not covered. Wearing a backpack is authorized if it has
brightly colored/reflective properties.
3.4.2.4.6. All on-duty riders of motorcycles and ATVs during off-road operations should also
wear knee, shin guards and padded full-fingered gloves. Security patrol requirements may dictate
limited compliance.

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