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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 07-16-2006, 02:39 PM Thread Starter
 
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strangest thing

today on my way to work, i was riding along, came to a stop light and prepared to stop and started shifting down. well the llight turned green before i could stop so i popped it back into 6th and went. or tried any way. it popped into neutral between 5th and 6th. i shifted up and it went into 6th and everything was fine. i just wanted to know if this has happened to anyone else, and is it really bad?
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post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old 07-16-2006, 03:15 PM
 
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Yeah...that is strange. It's impossible to get into neutral from 5th or 6th.
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post #3 of 34 (permalink) Old 07-16-2006, 03:19 PM Thread Starter
 
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thats what i thought, but the clutch was out all the way after i shifted up, and when i reved the throttle, thats all it did was rev.
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post #4 of 34 (permalink) Old 07-16-2006, 03:22 PM
 
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So you weren't in first and tried getting into second and caught neutral? 5th to 6th doesn't sound right. Missing second from first happens from time to time though.
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post #5 of 34 (permalink) Old 07-16-2006, 03:25 PM Thread Starter
 
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yeah, i know. maybe it was one of those wierd once in a life time things that i probably couldn't do on purpose if my life depended on it.
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yeah, i know. maybe it was one of those wierd once in a life time things that i probably couldn't do on purpose if my life depended on it.
Maybe you're not sure what gears you were in. If you were slowing down for a light and you were in 6th gear, how fast were you going?
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post #7 of 34 (permalink) Old 07-16-2006, 03:34 PM
 
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You should have been downshifting into at least second or third when the light turned green. Even a 1400 would have trouble accelerating away in sixth.
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but i was still going 45 mph, second would have thrown me off the bike.
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but i was still going 45 mph, second would have thrown me off the bike.
Shoulda been in at least 3rd going 45MPH. You could get away with 4th too.
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on a 250?
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post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 07-16-2006, 05:43 PM
 
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ive caught a false neutral on the SV. 4th and 5th, or 5th and 6th i dont remember. Ive caught one on a '98 Katana too.
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post #12 of 34 (permalink) Old 07-16-2006, 05:46 PM Thread Starter
 
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yay someone that feels my pain and confusion
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post #13 of 34 (permalink) Old 07-16-2006, 06:50 PM
 
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yea its called a false nuetral, they happen occasionally on all bikes, don sweat it guy :P btw first post here, seems like a good forum
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yea its called a false nuetral, they happen occasionally on all bikes, don sweat it guy :P btw first post here, seems like a good forum
oh its the best. the members a friendly, and everyone is very helpful with any issues you may have. plus they are fun to just chat with. i post no where else.
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Grifter, motorcycle.com compared the Ninja 250, Nighthawk, and Virago. Here is the torque curves for those bikes. For the Ninja, there is a nice jump in power from 4,500 rpm up to 9,000. I'm sure you notice this on your bike. So while street cruising, you want to keep the rpm's around 4,500. That will give you instant acceleration. At 45 mph in sixth, you were probably well below 4,500.
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Grifter, motorcycle.com compared the Ninja 250, Nighthawk, and Virago. Here is the torque curves for those bikes. For the Ninja, there is a nice jump in power from 4,500 rpm up to 9,000. I'm sure you notice this on your bike. So while street cruising, you want to keep the rpm's around 4,500. That will give you instant acceleration. At 45 mph in sixth, you were probably well below 4,500.
on my bike at 45mph in 6th gear i sit at about 5200-5300 rpms.
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I've hit false neutrals in upper gears, especially if I have new boots and they aren't broken in yet. Ever since I switched both my bikes to GP shifting, that problem never happens....I love it
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whats GP shifting
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GP shifting is reversing the shift pattern...1 up, 5 down. Most racers use that pattern. If you NEED to upshift while leaned left, you don't have to worry about catching your foot. Personally, I find it easier to "push down" (upshift) while quickly accelerating....just a preference.
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