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post #1 of 157 (permalink) Old 07-17-2006, 09:07 AM Thread Starter
 
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Changing the chain

So the SV needs a new chain here in the next couple of weeks and I was figuring that I'd do it myself since I have the Clymer guide and all the necessary tools. So I looked up the procedure and it seemed really straightforward until I got to the part about taking the swingarm off. That looks like it would take like 2-3 hours in itself just to take off and put back on . So my question is: Has anyone done this and am I really going to need to pull the whole back half of the bike apart just to put a new chain on? It seems like it should be simpler than all that
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post #2 of 157 (permalink) Old 07-17-2006, 10:08 AM
 
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That's retarded...unless there's something about the SV that I don't know about. Loosen the tension in your chain all the way and then cut it off. Size up or count the links and make the new one the same length. Route it around the cam sprocket and the rear sprocket. Put the master link on and tighten the tension back up. Make sure you do it evenly to protect your sprockets from excessive wear.
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You really don't even need to remove the rear wheel but it makes it easier.

Tip 1.
Get a chain rivet kit available at most bike shops. It will have all the necessary tools to both remove the old and reinstall the new one.

Tip 2.
Don't pull the old chain off after you get it broke. Slip the new chain end link into the old chain. Then thread the new chain around the front sprocket. This will save lots of time by not having to remove the front sprocket cover.

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post #4 of 157 (permalink) Old 07-17-2006, 12:25 PM
 
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If the chain is worn, it's probably a good idea to also replace both sprockets. I used a Motion Pro Jumbo, a premium tool which breaks chain (by pushing out the pin), presses on a new link plate, and peens the pins onto the link plate. I also used Esjot steel sprockets and a DID chain. Total cost was $300, but the tool will last forever.
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If the chain is worn, it's probably a good idea to also replace both sprockets. I used a Motion Pro Jumbo, a premium tool which breaks chain (by pushing out the pin), presses on a new link plate, and peens the pins onto the link plate. I also used Esjot steel sprockets and a DID chain. Total cost was $300, but the tool will last forever.
Yeah, great tool. I'd also think about the sprockets. But if you're a budget rider, you should be alright.
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First, thanks everyone for the tips! This is a big part of why The shop that put my new rear tire on suggested changing the chain because some of the bushings are shot but they said that my sprockets are in good shape and should last for awhile yet so I don't think I'll do those quite yet.
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First, thanks everyone for the tips! This is a big part of why The shop that put my new rear tire on suggested changing the chain because some of the bushings are shot but they said that my sprockets are in good shape and should last for awhile yet so I don't think I'll do those quite yet.
Word. Just the chain it is. Good luck, bro. You won't need it.
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post #8 of 157 (permalink) Old 07-17-2006, 04:55 PM
 
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I dont REALLY think the swingarm needs to come off to simply replace a chain. just do like everyone above said. break the old chain, put an end of the new one on, and pull it through the front sprocket, then take the old chain put in trash, connect new one and you're done. its a VERY straightforward task.
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post #9 of 157 (permalink) Old 07-17-2006, 05:18 PM
 
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They say take off the swingarm because its to replace the old continuous chain with a new continuous chain. And if thats the type youre using then yes take off the swingarm. Rivet type, press fit, or clip type just cut it with the tool NoWorries mentioned. I have one myself and it will open a whole world of do it yourself possibilities. And will pay for its self immediately.
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JK is right...that's why they say that!

Hunter... how many miles you got on your SV? Anything over 5K change the sprockets and the chain! You'll thank me later!

Second, get renthol sprockets and DiD X-Ring chain. Order the stuff from Kneedraggers!

Third, by the time you get the stuff in. I'll be un-packed at the new crib. I have all the tools you'll need to do the job and would be more than willing to help you out... all you have to do is bring the parts, some pizza money, and ride the bike to my crib.




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JK is right...that's why they say that!

Hunter... how many miles you got on your SV? Anything over 5K change the sprockets and the chain! You'll thank me later!

Second, get renthol sprockets and DiD X-Ring chain. Order the stuff from Kneedraggers!

Third, by the time you get the stuff in. I'll be un-packed at the new crib. I have all the tools you'll need to do the job and would be more than willing to help you out... all you have to do is bring the parts, some pizza money, and ride the bike to my crib.

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Alright so if I'm changing sprockets and chain then should I be considering changing the ratios? I'm at 15:45 right now and Renthal has both stock and a 16:44 option. According to my calculations that would take me from 3 using the 15:45 to 2.75 using the 16:44....any thoughts?
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Alright so if I'm changing sprockets and chain then should I be considering changing the ratios? I'm at 15:45 right now and Renthal has both stock and a 16:44 option. According to my calculations that would take me from 3 using the 15:45 to 2.75 using the 16:44....any thoughts?
That would increase your top end a little bit. if you want to increase your acceleration, you should go 1 down in front and 1 up in the back.
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That's cool. Just let me know when you do. I'm not in a huge rush right now esp since it looks like I'll be dropping $400 into the SV this week already. But I'm def interested!
$400 for what?
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Front tire -$100
Sprockets - $78
Chain - $92
Chain breaker - $136
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Front tire -$100
Sprockets - $78
Chain - $92
Chain breaker - $136
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bREAK THE CHAIN WITH A DREMEL. Blask & Decker makes a similar dremel tool for like twenty bucks that already comes with the cutting tool you'll need. Now you'll need a rivet tool to put the new one on. Way cheaper than $136.
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so you're saying that i shouldn't get the tool that No Worries recommended? https://www.twowheelforum.com/showthr...239#post186239
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so you're saying that i shouldn't get the tool that No Worries recommended? https://www.twowheelforum.com/showthr...239#post186239
I think the tool he's talking about does both. It breaks and presses the rivets. Great toiol, but you can just get a chain rivet tool and use a dremel to cut the old one off and cut links off the new one.
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Alright so if I'm changing sprockets and chain then should I be considering changing the ratios? I'm at 15:45 right now and Renthal has both stock and a 16:44 option. According to my calculations that would take me from 3 using the 15:45 to 2.75 using the 16:44....any thoughts?
15- 45? thats the sv naked gearing. the SVS had taller gears. Someone may have done a gearing swap already. What kind of chain do you have on it now?
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I didn't know that the naked was different . I didn't count the teeth, I was just assuming since the online stores I went to said that 15:45 was stock that I had the same. What is the general consensus on sprocket and chain size? I noticed that a lot of people on the sv forum were doing the 520 conversion...what are your thoughts about that?
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