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post #1 of 51 (permalink) Old 07-27-2006, 05:14 AM Thread Starter
 
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chain lube question. I know, dont kill me

I just picked up this chain lube while at walmart, its Champion chain lube. now I know you have to clean the chain, and apply this stuff, but do you just spray the whole chain, or aim specifically at the moving points? the directions arent too clear, and well to be honest I've never lubed the chain on a bike before. if you ask why, its because the old one was worn out, and not reallly worth lubing. anyone got some help.
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post #2 of 51 (permalink) Old 07-27-2006, 05:15 AM
 
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when i get back from work i'll try to illustrate my humble procedure.
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KB...that shiz is gonna fling all over the place. I just bought some dupont teflon lube. It dries clear and doesnt fling at all.

I spray it primarily down between the links and rollers on both sides...to keep the o-rings lubed. Do it at nite...after you've ridden for a while. That way the chain is good and hot. That will help it dry and hopefully, not fling. Let it sit over nite.



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FIRST! MOST IMPORTANT!! CAN YOU HEAR ME??!

Never, ever, ever, ever...try to lube or clean your chain and sprockets with the bike running or in gear...

That said...now, After you put towels/cardboard down under your chain, you should scrubb it with a tooth brush and wd-40...Do about 15 links at a time and slowly turn your back wheel with your hand and then clean the next section. Wipe thoroughly with clean rag

After you have cleaned the chain, blow some air from your compressor down through the rollers and you will see lotsa' gunk come out. Continue the compressed air and wiping with several clean rags until the gunk stops coming out.

Cut a piece of cardboard about 6" X 12". From the middle of the chain on the bottom, slide the cardboard up behind the chain, it will act as a backstop so you don't lube your tire, wheel, floor, etc.

Spray the lube down through the rollers and rotate your tire to move the chain. I try to spray for at least 2 times around the chain. Lightly, again, lightly spray some lube on the outside plates of the chain, this will help prevent rust and corrosion.

let the chain dry for 30 minutes or so and then lightly wipe off any excess...do not rub or scrub with the towel, you are wiping the excess to try to eliminate the "fling factor"

A tip to help you keep your tips, (fingers)...when wiping your chain while rotating the tire, always wipe the part where the chain is moving from right to left...Away from the rear and toward the front sprocket. And NEVER wrap the towel around your hand


Even when turning the wheel slowly, if you get your fingers in the sprocket, it will bite them off...No lie, no s#!t

Just ask birdman

set the bike down and off for a ride you go...

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FIRST! MOST IMPORTANT!! CAN YOU HEAR ME??!

Never, ever, ever, ever...try to lube or clean your chain and sprockets with the bike running or in gear...

That said...now, After you put towels/cardboard down under your chain, you should scrubb it with a tooth brush and wd-40...Do about 15 links at a time and slowly turn your back wheel with your hand and then clean the next section. Wipe thoroughly with clean rag

After you have cleaned the chain, blow some air from your compressor down through the rollers and you will see lotsa' gunk come out. Continue the compressed air and wiping with several clean rags until the gunk stops coming out.

Cut a piece of cardboard about 6" X 12". From the middle of the chain on the bottom, slide the cardboard up behind the chain, it will act as a backstop so you don't lube your tire, wheel, floor, etc.

Spray the lube down through the rollers and rotate your tire to move the chain. I try to spray for at least 2 times around the chain. Lightly, again, lightly spray some lube on the outside plates of the chain, this will help prevent rust and corrosion.

let the chain dry for 30 minutes or so and then lightly wipe off any excess...do not rub or scrub with the towel, you are wiping the excess to try to eliminate the "fling factor"

A tip to help you keep your tips, (fingers)...when wiping your chain while rotating the tire, always wipe the part where the chain is moving from right to left...Away from the rear and toward the front sprocket. And NEVER wrap the towel around your hand


Even when turning the wheel slowly, if you get your fingers in the sprocket, it will bite them off...No lie, no s#!t

set the bike down and off for a ride you go...

Great post Bee and I also agree the job gets best results from a recently used/just ridden/warm chain.

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It's funny how easy a sproket on a bicycle will take off the thumb of a 6 or 7 year old boy. I can't really remember how old I was. I just know that about 2 seconds, and it was numb. Blood will actually shoot out of the thumb. Or the spot where the thumb would be. 20 years after that, you will still not have feeling in the tip of your thumb.
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Great post Bee and I also agree the job gets best results from a recently used/just ridden/warm chain.

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Consider yourself killed. Nah, Bee got it.
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FIRST! MOST IMPORTANT!! CAN YOU HEAR ME??!

Never, ever, ever, ever...try to lube or clean your chain and sprockets with the bike running or in gear...

That said...now, After you put towels/cardboard down under your chain, you should scrubb it with a tooth brush and wd-40...Do about 15 links at a time and slowly turn your back wheel with your hand and then clean the next section. Wipe thoroughly with clean rag

After you have cleaned the chain, blow some air from your compressor down through the rollers and you will see lotsa' gunk come out. Continue the compressed air and wiping with several clean rags until the gunk stops coming out.

Cut a piece of cardboard about 6" X 12". From the middle of the chain on the bottom, slide the cardboard up behind the chain, it will act as a backstop so you don't lube your tire, wheel, floor, etc.

Spray the lube down through the rollers and rotate your tire to move the chain. I try to spray for at least 2 times around the chain. Lightly, again, lightly spray some lube on the outside plates of the chain, this will help prevent rust and corrosion.

let the chain dry for 30 minutes or so and then lightly wipe off any excess...do not rub or scrub with the towel, you are wiping the excess to try to eliminate the "fling factor"

A tip to help you keep your tips, (fingers)...when wiping your chain while rotating the tire, always wipe the part where the chain is moving from right to left...Away from the rear and toward the front sprocket. And NEVER wrap the towel around your hand


Even when turning the wheel slowly, if you get your fingers in the sprocket, it will bite them off...No lie, no s#!t

Just ask birdman

set the bike down and off for a ride you go...

You still have to be bringing that up huh? My finger is still healing from that and its been at least 2 months.
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I've tried about every lube on the market, and found Honda lube to be the best IMHO. Whatever brand you use, at least lube on a regular basis. It never ceases to amaze me the number of rusty chains I see. It'll eat up your sprockets sooner. That was an excellent post by bumblebee
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Alot of this is BS if you have a O or X ring chain.

Cleaning for example... if you have a "ring" chain you really don't want to use WD on it. The WD can dry out the O rings.

Lube... all you need to do is get the "gunk" and dirt out of the crevises and keep the o rings lubed.

You can do both with one product. Kerosene! K1 is a great cleaning product and a oil. Then get your rags, wife's toothbrush and do like Bee said. Spray, scrub, blow if you feel, wipe, repeat as needed.

Just put the K1 in a old spray bottle and have at it!




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I agree that kero cleans great. I watched a program on tv where a guy from D.I.D. chains was a guest. He demonstrated how to lube and stressed that a chain should be lubed with a good quality chain lube...that included all chains.

Consider this: As long as I can remember, I've always gotten around 15K on my chain/sprockets (more on some). I can't get much more than about 1,800 miles on a rear tire (the whole tire is cooked....sides and middle) so that shows you how agressively I ride. The mechanics I have used have always expressed amazement about the above facts. I attribute it to my cleaning/lubing method. Just thought I would toss this out there
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once again, you have proven to be a super source of good info guys. btw, would diesel fuel work as well as kerosene to clean/lube chains?
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I use the Honda lube and after I've sprayed it and parked my bike for the night, the entire garage smells.
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I use the Honda lube and after I've sprayed it and parked my bike for the night, the entire garage smells.
chain maintinence is the last thing i do in the day, so it can setup over night.


Good tip on the warm chain guys, i'll try that next time.
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Okay...

Here's the scoop on WD-40 and o-rings.
WD-40 is a very light cleaner oil. It will clean the o-rings and will also seal it. that is a property of oils. (refresher: oils will clean, lubricate, and seal)
WD-40 is also very light, it will dissolve before it can penetrate the seal.

Here is were it gets controversial. If WD-40 gets inside the O-ring, then it will destroy the grease. And here is where the controversy ends. If WD-40 is able to penetrate the o-ring, then the o-ring has already lost it's shelf life.

To summarize, if you have bad o-rings, using WD-40 will quickly dissolve the grease inside the o-rings. Other than that, it has worked well for many users over the years. Tested for over 15 years by my buddies without a problem.

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Okay...

Here's the scoop on WD-40 and o-rings.
WD-40 is a very light cleaner oil. It will clean the o-rings and will also seal it. that is a property of oils. (refresher: oils will clean, lubricate, and seal)
WD-40 is also very light, it will dissolve before it can penetrate the seal.

Here is were it gets controversial. If WD-40 gets inside the O-ring, then it will destroy the grease. And here is where the controversy ends. If WD-40 is able to penetrate the o-ring, then the o-ring has already lost it's shelf life.

To summarize, if you have bad o-rings, using WD-40 will quickly dissolve the grease inside the o-rings. Other than that, it has worked well for many users over the years. Tested for over 15 years by my buddies without a problem.

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Well, as I said above, I use WD 40 to blast out/clean my chain, then lube it. 15k miles per chain ain't bad.
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Yes Back you are right... but if you have a o-ring chain... seepin thru the o-ring and taking out the sealed in grease would be disasteres for the chain.

I would not suggest standard Low Sulfer Diesel if has alot more dyes and such in it. Kero is just a more pure distilate.




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i just use KY Warming gel lubracant...... oops you said chain lube... never mind...
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Whats the best for X-ring?
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