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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 10-10-2006, 11:38 AM Thread Starter
 
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water + redline vs Ice

Here's my comparison.

redline water wetter + water outperformed the stock antifreeze. I compared it with my daily commute to work. Idling at the light, the temp didn't hit past 215 F. (ambient is over 95 F). It cools down very quickly. 15 Degrees in less than two blocks.

I switched over to Engine Ice in the beginning of October. The weather is much cooler and less humid. Sitting at the same light with ambient at 80 F. the engine temp hits 220 F with fan kicking on. Temp cools 10 degrees in less than two blocks. There was still residual water + redline in the system so I'll flush that out next week with more Engine Ice (expensive stuff). I believe Ice is not a water based product. So far, I think redline is better. But I'll give Ice a few more weeks then I'll switch back to redline and compare results again.

note: redline + water does not have anti-freeze.

my next project in 2007 is converting to DOT5.

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This time of year. Or cold months. Depending on where your at. Bikes need antifreeze unless the bike is being stored in a climate controlled environment.

Keep us posted on your findings. I recently switched to ICE from Redline. It was an availability issue and not a dislike of product.

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My cooling system consists of 4 qts of 10w40



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Me too now!

But due to the weather/storage situation I have always done the Ice!

For record... I have found that Ice does about 20 degrees less than standard anti-freeze




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Me too now!

But due to the weather/storage situation I have always done the Ice!

For record... I have found that Ice does about 20 degrees less than standard anti-freeze
But do you have a big azzed oil cooler on your rig?



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But do you have a big azzed oil cooler on your rig?
Nope... don't need one on my setup. I don't have fairings restricting air flow.




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Nope... don't need one on my setup. I don't have fairings restricting air flow.
Oh well...who cares. Oil coolers unite!



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Nice comparison. rep'd ya. I've been trying to figure out what I wanted to switch to, Ice sounds like the way to go in MI. Do most tracks allow Ice or do I need to get some Wetter for that?
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Nope... don't need one on my setup. I don't have fairings restricting air flow.
That's debatable. The look trick on choppers and HDs Nobs always ask if their nitrous bottles.

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Nice comparison. rep'd ya. I've been trying to figure out what I wanted to switch to, Ice sounds like the way to go in MI. Do most tracks allow Ice or do I need to get some Wetter for that?
No if you go Ice... you run just that. But you will need 2 bottles. It takes just over 1 bottle. Furthermore, you will need to rinse out the system with distilled water at least 3 times... the rinse will take like a 2 gal thing of cheapy distilled water.

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That's debatable. The look trick on choppers and HDs Nobs always ask if their nitrous bottles.
Yeah but all it does for me is make me replace more oil.




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Can you keep Engine ICE in your bike throughout the winter?
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Can you keep Engine ICE in your bike throughout the winter?
Yes... that's whay you want it over the water & water wetter.




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Can you keep Engine ICE in your bike throughout the winter?
It only has antifreeze capabilities. It should be fine if bike is stored in a garage that barely droops below freezing.

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It only has minimum antifreeze capabilities. It should be fine if bike is stored in a garage that barely droops below freezing. If its stored in a cold climate in a shed or the like. I would drain and replace with antifreeze for the winter.
And that is the PIA that you will avoid with the Ice. Trust me... the Ice rocks!!!




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And that is the PIA that you will avoid with the Ice. Trust me... the Ice rocks!!!
I will have to check to verify but I thought the ICE was limited in freeze protection.

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I will have to check to verify but I thought the ICE was limited in freeze protection.
I was wrong and will be the first to admit it. I pulled this info straight from thier site here

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Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant TM offers excellent alloy protection for Motorcycle engines against corrosion, overheating, & freezing. Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant TM is pre-mixed at a 1:1 ratio with de-ionized (DI) water and has a boiling point of 256oF and a freezing point of -26oF. Propylene glycol engine coolants will perform superbly under most operating conditions and will not affect factory warranty coverage.

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Yep... like I said... perfect!




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my next project in 2007 is converting to DOT5.

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You DO NOT what to use DOT 5 in you bike. You want to use DOT 5.1

Unlike polyethylene glycol based fluids it is not hygroscopic, however this means that instead of being dissolved, any water in the system will eventually find its way to the lowest point in the brake line, corroding it, and potentially boiling and causing brake failure. Because of this, and other reasons (such as compatibility, cost, and lack of advantage over regular fluids) it is no longer used very much. Use DOT 5.1
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