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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-16-2006, 02:14 PM Thread Starter
 
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Torque Wrench

For all you ppl that do your own maintenance work (I think thats most of you )

Do you think its necessary to have a torque wrench in the toolbox? The oil drain plug bolt on my bike is supposed to be torqued to 14.5 ft/lbs. people on ninja250.org say DEFINITELY get one. on the other hand, the guy at autozone says "nah, you don't need it, just get it to where its tight"

anyways for casual things like oil changes is it worth it to buy one?
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post #2 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-16-2006, 02:31 PM
 
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better safe than sorry.


I use my dads old craftsman from like 1975, i'm sure you could find something similar for very few greenbacks on ebay.
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post #3 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-16-2006, 02:47 PM
 
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There is a REASON why when you go to ANY good auto or bike service organization for an oil change, they ALWAYS write down the torque setting of the drain plug(s) on your service sheet or bill after they've done the work...

Until you've had the oil light come on in your car just after stopping at the "Quick lube" or had your rear tire coated with oil a half-mile after leaving the dealership, or snapped off that recessed bolt that LOOKED a lot stouter than it was....

Get the torque wrench, and use it.
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post #4 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-16-2006, 02:53 PM Thread Starter
 
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I agree I'd rather be safe, but I'm not some man-gorilla thats gonna accidentally apply 100ft-lbs of torque onto a bolt. Torque wrenches are to make sure you don't overtighten it, not undertighten, so wouldn't it make sense to just "eyeball it"?
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Torque wrenches are to insure both....and also to insure that things are tightened equally...like cover bolts, headbolts, holdown bolts...to prevent warping.

If EXPERIENCED, PROFESSIONAL mechanics don't "eyeball it", why would you?
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post #6 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-16-2006, 03:16 PM
 
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Get the wrench: EOS
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Get the wrench: EOS
roger that... once OTB gets on the case I have to follow his advice
well next question ->
needle type (about 10-15 bux) or clicker type (40-50)?
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post #8 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-16-2006, 05:01 PM
 
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I agree with all. torque wrench... get it. CRITICAL on a motorcycle. I have a beam type, and when i had a clicker, i used the beam type to verify the clicker.


pros and cons...

beam type: EASY to calibrate. Just bend the needle beam to ZERO and go! Reliable choice, but hard to read in certian situations. Also you must be very smooth when pulling and dont let the needle hit the number face or it will be inaccurate.

clicker type: Set the ft/lb etc and GO! Great for confined jobs and faster. If it gets inaccurate you wont know it. Unload the wrench when done or it will get inaccurate.

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good post dilla.
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post #10 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-16-2006, 06:34 PM
 
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Honestly, the only thing I would want to get a torque wrench for would be if I did engine work. Drain plug? Just get that bitch tight. Same with the filter.
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dude your sig is AWESOME.... I'd rep ya if i could

great, another opinion thrown in the mix. thats what my thought was at first.
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From my experience, it's always necessary to have a torque wrench. In some instances, you aren't trying to get the bolt to a certain tightness, but rather trying not to tighten it too much. If you tighten some bolts too much, you'll strip the threads. The torque wrench will let you know when you have it as tight as you want to get it. Get the kind that clicks, it's a lot easier than the kind with a needle pointing to some hard to read scale.
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From my experience, it's always necessary to have a torque wrench. In some instances, you aren't trying to get the bolt to a certain tightness, but rather trying not to tighten it too much. If you tighten some bolts too much, you'll strip the threads. The torque wrench will let you know when you have it as tight as you want to get it. Get the kind that clicks, it's a lot easier than the kind with a needle pointing to some hard to read scale.

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As others have stated, a torque wrench is a must if you plan on doing your own maintenance. However, I do not torque an oil drain plug under any circumstances. I perform my own oil changes on both my cars and bike.
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Things that I don't torque down are oil filters and spark plugs, because of the gaskets. Every bolt is otherwise torqued down. It only takes a few extra seconds. I bought my brother a torque wrench in 1965. He gave it back to me in 1972. A beam type that works fine. I also have a smaller one in inch pounds. I keep them in a special box so they don't get banged around.

Not to mention broken bolts, but didn't you ever come to a stoplight and see bolts in the street or by the curb? Or wheels on cars missing lug nuts? If I owned a shop where a mechanic didn't use a torque wrench, I'd fire him on the spot. Just get the wrench so I don't have a stroke here.
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It's an expensive mistake if you do over torque a bolt- even if it's just your oil plug,let's say for example you over torque you drain plug,you could re-tap it if it's salvageable or you may just have to get a whole new oil pan...expensive. I use a torque wrench anytime the service manual calls for it. It's just safer, and you'll know that it's done right.
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Hey ghost, who's the girly in the pic......
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Just get the wrench so I don't have a stroke here.
I'm the proud new owner of a click type torque wrench. so
thanks for the advice everyone!
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ON the torque wrench. Buy one and keep it in its case. I do that with mine. I pull it out, use it and put it away. Never drop it or anything. Works great.

Here's the one I think I have... not too expensive considering its on sale for $20 off.




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post #20 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-18-2006, 07:49 AM
 
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Smart move on buying the wrench...

as far as the parts store guy...if he was good/smart enough to wrench on cars/bikes...he wouldn't be standing behind a parts counter for 1/2 the money...
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