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Clutches

how can you tell your clutch is going and what do you look for when deciding that it is time for a overhaul?



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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 04-03-2007, 07:15 PM
 
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Is it on your Kawi? Cuz if its the slipper tha can cost up to $700
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no slipper, its a 2003 636 so no slipper



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Still very expensive. What exactly is it doing..It may just need to cool down.
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it just doesnt have the bite it used to and i seem to be hitting neutral alot more when i am trying to get into 2nd and when that happens it is very notchy when i push it back to 1st( obvosly when i slow down to first gear speeds) and a lil less notchy when i just continue back to 2nd, but not very smooth at all



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First im not sure of how your used to shifting. I know that sometimes i lite foot it myself..As for the bite have you checked your sprockets? It could be youve lost a tooth. Or your tranny is shot...Hmmm
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i dont think the tranny is shot, but i am going to take it in when i go for my12k check up and have them look at everything, check clutch, valves etc.



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it should be before the gap, i dont have the problem if i am delibrate about shifting from 1st to 2nd so i am not worried about it as is now, i am just looking for ideas on what to look for if it gets worse (other then its gettting worse)



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i just cant clutchless shift mainly 1-2nd, neutral is getting in the way



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I thought i burned mine in my R1. But what happened is when id pull in teh clutch the bike would still pull forward..Even with the brakes on. Putting it in neutral was a huge pain aswell...I let mine cool and its been normal since..So that may be an indication of a bad clutch..
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the key to the clutchless shift from 1st to 2nd is SMOOTHNESS. the 1st-2nd transition is the toughest though in clutchless shifting.

from how you describe it, it sounds more to me like a clutch adjustment or your cable may be nearing the end of its useful life. the cable is MUCH cheaper, probably $20-60 or something like that as opposed to a couple hundred for a clutch.

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I wouldnt really say "noob" Ive been around awhile..Well not here but to this forum. Besides one of the things that ive liked about this board is that it does not seem that post count means alot...Which RULES....Oh and thank you...
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The normal indication of a "shot" clutch is slippage in the higher gears..sounds like yours is merely "dragging" ie not fully disengaging; ergo, the notchy feel of the shifter.

GO GET YOUR OWNERS MANUAL....the procedure for checking clutch freeplay will be spelled out for you....if you have a cable actuated clutch, normal stretching of the cable will cause this...if you have a hydraulic clutch, a little bleeding will be required. Follow your manuals procedure IN THE ORDER IT RECOMMENDS. Folks on here frequently complain about the same problem after reversing the adjustment order. Some bikes require that freeplay first be adjusted at the lever, then at the actuator arm, others the reverse.
Read your Manual.

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The best way to determine if its truely slipping is to try in 4th gear. That gear is nearly 1:1. Your other gears 1-3 are a variation of 1:2 or 1:3. That's why they are so short. Then the 5-6 are like .8:1 or like .6:1

But I'm guessing its most likely out of adjustment. Try loosening or adding some play into your clutch lever. I myself have had it too tight and expierenced this.

Further, if it needs anything most likely all it would need would be sitffer clutch springs.




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