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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-26-2007, 10:47 PM Thread Starter
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battery problems...can ANYONE help me?

so i buy a new battery and installed it saturday night started the bike right up and have been riding with NO problems until today...im on the expressway in stop and go traffic so im stopped and looked down to see the bike stalled....try to start it but it wouldnt turn over...pull off to the side of the road and get towed back to my house....i have this battery in my 1998 honda 900rr http://www.batterystuff.com/power-sp...y/PTX4LBS.html

so im thinking one of two things happened....
1-the battery was sitting for a while when i ordered it and wasnt fully charged so it died on me....or
2-something is draining the battery or my charging system is faulty

i checked the battery and its completely dead.....if anyone can help me i would really appreciate it...thanks
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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-26-2007, 11:04 PM
 
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whats the battery voltage?
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whats the battery voltage?
its a 12v
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post #4 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-26-2007, 11:10 PM
 
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did you measure what its actually putting out? with a multimeter?
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did you measure what its actually putting out? with a multimeter?
after it died and i took the battery out i hooked it up to the multimeter and it had NOTHING it wasnt moving the needle at all.....
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Will it take a charge?

Have you checked the bike's fuses to see if anything is blown on the charging system?

Why did you replace the battery before this one?




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Will it take a charge?

Have you checked the bike's fuses to see if anything is blown on the charging system?

Why did you replace the battery before this one?
can you charge this battery just like a car battery? i mean it is 12v so im assuming yes? i was waiting till today to call TOCC and ask them what to do before i charged it.......


and i havent checked the fuses but i will, and remember the post about someone stealing my seat/battery/license plate? well thats why i ordered this new one....

any other oppinions?
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I had the same prob. with mine last week turns out I had to buy a regulator for it .
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I had the same prob. with mine last week turns out I had to buy a regulator for it .
regulator? explain....im a n00b
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Yes you can charge it like a car battery but no more than a 2 amp charge.

Regulator / VR / Voltage Regulator

it is what changes the AC voltage off the stator into DC voltage.




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Yes you can charge it like a car battery but no more than a 2 amp charge.

Regulator / VR / Voltage Regulator

it is what changes the AC voltage off the stator into DC voltage.
is this something expensive? i might try charging it and seeing if it will hold and if not then ill probably get it checked out
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Please don't go replacing things until you have the problem figured out! The first thing you need to do is either charge the battery at a low amp like was said less than 2 amps. While you are waiting fo it to charge check all of your fuses. After it is charged hook everything up. With a multi meter check your voltage at the battery. With the key turned off the voltage should be between 12-13 volts. Now start the bike and measure the voltage with a multi meter again, running it should be over 13.5 and it should actually be closer to 14 volts. You can try blurping the throttle and see if your voltage fluxuates. If this all checks out then your charging system should be ok and its time to start looking for whats drawing too much current at idle. But check all of these things before you go spending money and then let us know what you find out! These are the first things I would do and have done and seams like a logical step to me. Goodluck!
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Please don't go replacing things until you have the problem figured out!


Find a good multimeter and check out this LINK

Run though the flowchart, whoever wrote it knew their stuff.
My guess is a bad R/R, it's pretty common on the Hondas. I've known people that carried a spare one.


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some batteries come dry and the electrollite is in a separate package. check the fluid level on the battery.

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Please don't go replacing things until you have the problem figured out! The first thing you need to do is either charge the battery at a low amp like was said less than 2 amps. While you are waiting fo it to charge check all of your fuses. After it is charged hook everything up. With a multi meter check your voltage at the battery. With the key turned off the voltage should be between 12-13 volts. Now start the bike and measure the voltage with a multi meter again, running it should be over 13.5 and it should actually be closer to 14 volts. You can try blurping the throttle and see if your voltage fluxuates. If this all checks out then your charging system should be ok and its time to start looking for whats drawing too much current at idle. But check all of these things before you go spending money and then let us know what you find out! These are the first things I would do and have done and seams like a logical step to me. Goodluck!
i just dropped it off at the honda dealership near me and they said itd be 30 bucks to find out exactly what is the problem as well as give the bike a visual on the carbs and other parts....figure thats a good deal...so ill wait to see what they say...

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Find a good multimeter and check out this LINK

Run though the flowchart, whoever wrote it knew their stuff.
My guess is a bad R/R, it's pretty common on the Hondas. I've known people that carried a spare one.


Good luck.
r/r?

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some batteries come dry and the electrollite is in a separate package. check the fluid level on the battery.

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yea this one is shipped ready to install i talked to the company they said you dont need to add acid or anything...
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r/r?
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is this something expensive? i might try charging it and seeing if it will hold and if not then ill probably get it checked out
no, its not expensive but listen to what joe is saying below

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Please don't go replacing things until you have the problem figured out! The first thing you need to do is either charge the battery at a low amp like was said less than 2 amps. While you are waiting fo it to charge check all of your fuses. After it is charged hook everything up. With a multi meter check your voltage at the battery. With the key turned off the voltage should be between 12-13 volts. Now start the bike and measure the voltage with a multi meter again, running it should be over 13.5 and it should actually be closer to 14 volts. You can try blurping the throttle and see if your voltage fluxuates. If this all checks out then your charging system should be ok and its time to start looking for whats drawing too much current at idle. But check all of these things before you go spending money and then let us know what you find out! These are the first things I would do and have done and seams like a logical step to me. Goodluck!
Above is exactly what I would have said. Its a step by step process

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The link he posted was a AGM battery which you don't add the fluid. They come pre-soaked from the factory and have about a 3 month shelf life.




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no, its not expensive but listen to what joe is saying below



Above is exactly what I would have said. Its a step by step process


The link he posted was a AGM battery which you don't add the fluid. They come pre-soaked from the factory and have about a 3 month shelf life.
well ill wait to see what the dealer tells me...i figured i needed to have it looked over anyway since i havent since i bought the bike....i would have checked what joe said before i took it but then i wouldnt have had my bike checked and possibly found other things wrong with it.....thanks for everyones help ill keep you updated
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