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post #1 of 41 (permalink) Old 09-03-2007, 11:50 AM Thread Starter
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turn signal problems

so my front turn signals havent been working since i bought the bike and i decided to figure it out today...took off the front headlight and the fuse panel covering and saw that there is no fuse in the turn signal fuse slot, then upon further inspection i realized there is no metal piece to connect the fuse ends to the fuse box in that slot....now is it easier to replace the fuse box or can i just get that metal piece and slide it into the fuse box?

also im guessing the front and rear turn signals run off of a different fuse cause my rears work fine just not the front??? help me out guys

sorry forgot to say the bike is a 98 honda 900rr
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Do the front signal lights work as driving lights? If not, there is probably no power there at all. Without seeing the fuse box, it might just be easier to splice in a power lead to the signals with an in-line fuse. You would probably need a wiring diagram for your bike to find the wire for driving and the wire for turning.
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Do the front signal lights work as driving lights? If not, there is probably no power there at all. Without seeing the fuse box, it might just be easier to splice in a power lead to the signals with an in-line fuse. You would probably need a wiring diagram for your bike to find the wire for driving and the wire for turning.
ok i sorta kinda figured it out im adding these pictures and try to follow along with what im saying, im not good with the names of the parts but im gonna try....

ok in the first pciture it shows the wiring going to the front right turn signal, you see the red and black wire which are connected which looks like no problem, then in the second picture you can see the "washer" right below the spring which shows the 2nd black wire that is welded to the "washer" but doesnt hook up to anything after the weld, so im guessing that is my problem?

now heres the thing on the other side it is not welded but the 2nd black wire is coming out of a connector that is orange in color (picture 3), but on the right side the side that IS welded the connector that it looks like its supposed to hook up to is blue with white stripes (picture 4)... i hope i explained this correct HELP!!!!!







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The 3rd wire coming out of the bulb could be for the 'running lights' function of the turn signal.

I would get a shop manual if you dont already have one. THen you can trace that blue/white wire in the wiring diagram and see what it does.



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Like Marco says, you need the wiring diagram for your bike. The wiring diagram for my 1990 CBR1000 (completely different from the 900) says the orange, green, and orange/white wires go to the left bulb. The orange wire is power, the green is ground, and the orange/white wire goes to the turn signal switch. On my bike, the blue/white wire goes from the dimmer switch to the starter switch. I think it switches off the headlights when I crank the starter motor.
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Like Marco says, you need the wiring diagram for your bike. The wiring diagram for my 1990 CBR1000 (completely different from the 900) says the orange, green, and orange/white wires go to the left bulb. The orange wire is power, the green is ground, and the orange/white wire goes to the turn signal switch. On my bike, the blue/white wire goes from the dimmer switch to the starter switch. I think it switches off the headlights when I crank the starter motor.
i have the clymers manual and its kinda confussing but it looks like the blue/white wire front he right turn signal goes to a box that says "turn signal switch" and is three parts to that switch R,N,and L so im guessing the r is right the l is left and the n is neutral meaning the running light?
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i have the clymers manual and its kinda confussing but it looks like the blue/white wire front he right turn signal goes to a box that says "turn signal switch" and is three parts to that switch R,N,and L so im guessing the r is right the l is left and the n is neutral meaning the running light?
Does that look like the switch on the handle bar? Or is it possibly the actual flasher unit for the signal?



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Does that look like the switch on the handle bar? Or is it possibly the actual flasher unit for the signal?
it is switch as in switch box not an actual switch you turn i guess..... here is the picture which shows the switch box top left is R middle is N and bottom row is L, its the middle sxwitch and on the bottom it says "Turn signal switch"
the pictures are taken with my phone sorry for the blur...



so im guessing all i need to do on the right side is hook up the black wire to the blue/white wire connector and on the left side solder the black wire onto the "washer"...does this sound right?

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I don't know about your wiring... but for reference you don't have or want to have any 'welds'... you want to solder (pronounced 'sodder')... you will need a soldering iron and a roll of solder and some wire strippers. Look up online how to solder and practice soldering two wires together with some scrap before you try it on your bike.
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I don't know about your wiring... but for reference you don't have or want to have any 'welds'... you want to solder (pronounced 'sodder')... you will need a soldering iron and a roll of solder and some wire strippers. Look up online how to solder and practice soldering two wires together with some scrap before you try it on your bike.
haha i was reading a post on another forum about welding thats why i said weld, i meant solder though....i used to install cd players so i know how to solder fairly well....

does my method soudn right though?
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haha i was reading a post on another forum about welding thats why i said weld, i meant solder though....i used to install cd players so i know how to solder fairly well....

does my method soudn right though?
I can't really tell from your pics and description... I'm sure someone else will be able to help. I'm a little confused about the 'switch' and all of those little boxes on the switch in your manual. Maybe a better picture would help?
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Do the front signal lights work as driving lights? If not, there is probably no power there at all. Without seeing the fuse box, it might just be easier to splice in a power lead to the signals with an in-line fuse. You would probably need a wiring diagram for your bike to find the wire for driving and the wire for turning.
just wire aroud the existing fuse box.

of coarse cause of websense I can't see any of your pics.




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just wire aroud the existing fuse box.

of coarse cause of websense I can't see any of your pics.
wire around the fuse box??? could you try to explain? and no the light NEVER works, not for riding or when i flick the turn signal, but like i said everything is hooked up except the one wire to the connector on the right side and on the left side it isnt hooked up to the "washer"....

on a side note the rear left signal just stopped working, the right works and i checked the bulb its still good, but on the inside of where the bulb goes it is a little corroded from water im guessing, so i think thats the problem why it wont work cause the wires wouldnt just go bad to that one side it would be both turn signals but i dont know how to wipe off the corrosion, should i just use a paper towel or is there something specific i should use?

and as far as the pictures, i dont have a digi cam so i used my cell phone, ill try to get my girls cam and take some better shots...
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wire around the fuse box??? could you try to explain? and no the light NEVER works, not for riding or when i flick the turn signal, but like i said everything is hooked up except the one wire to the connector on the right side and on the left side it isnt hooked up to the "washer"....

on a side note the rear left signal just stopped working, the right works and i checked the bulb its still good, but on the inside of where the bulb goes it is a little corroded from water im guessing, so i think thats the problem why it wont work cause the wires wouldnt just go bad to that one side it would be both turn signals but i dont know how to wipe off the corrosion, should i just use a paper towel or is there something specific i should use?

and as far as the pictures, i dont have a digi cam so i used my cell phone, ill try to get my girls cam and take some better shots...
it grounded good? n try cleaning the connectors and then apply a dab of dielectric greese in them to prevent future corrosion. I had one that wasnt working n thats what it was, just corroded.
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You said there was no power hook up in the fuse box as in somebody removed it? NW said... to find power and use a in-line fuse instead of the factory fuse box opening.

Is the problem at the fuse box or at the light? Seems like there may be some confusion here...




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You said there was no power hook up in the fuse box as in somebody removed it? NW said... to find power and use a in-line fuse instead of the factory fuse box opening.

Is the problem at the fuse box or at the light? Seems like there may be some confusion here...
yea sorry i didnt clear it up...i was looking at the fuse panel upside down so i was reading it wrong...the fuses are there and OK from what it seems, there is one fuse for the rear and front turn signals and the rear work fine so i believe the problem is at the light itself specifically where those wires in the picture are not hooked up....im at work now til 7am then im goin home and am going to solder the one wire and connect the other one and see if it works....

if not i guess ill have to take it to the dealer
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Or just hit it with a multi meter or light tester...




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Or just hit it with a multi meter or light tester...
the wires coming from the bike right?
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the wires coming from the bike right?
Yes he is saying test the wires coming out of the bike for if they are getting juice or not.
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Yes he is saying test the wires coming out of the bike for if they are getting juice or not.
yea thats what im gonna do...im gonna get my girls dads voltmeter and see whats goin on with the power...im crossing my fingers that there is power cause if not then itll open a whole new can 'o worms
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