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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-25-2007, 05:24 PM Thread Starter
 
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My 2002 954rr willnt start

I recently changed the clutch on my bike. When i put the clutch back in I did an oil change. I went to go start it after all of that was done. It ran before I put the clutch in. But the bike willn't start, the fuel pump turns on but the bike just cranks but willn't fire up. So i called a couple people. They told me to check the sensor behind the headlight. I never even messed with it. All i did was change my clutch thats the only area i was in. There is a little box on the inside wall of the clutch cover that points to the timing chain i think. I was wondering would that have anything to do with it not starting. Everybody I ask cant really help me. So i'm on here also there is a f1 and a light that blinks 7 times. I want to try and figure it out before I take it to the shop and spend crazy money. If you have any ideas please help me. It been a while since i have rode and i'm going through withdrawl.
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-25-2007, 05:54 PM
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I have no idea, but I voted for help with a capital H.
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Everybody I ask cant really help me. So i'm on here also there is a f1 and a light that blinks 7 times.
Im gunna say yes that thing inside your case that pointed at your chain is a likely culprit. Its probably a crank position sensor, it has to do with your timing. And the reason no one can help ya is cuz you dont ask clear questions. WTF random there is an F1 and a light that blinks 7 times?? I have NO idea what your talking about F1 is a class of tornado... maby the light blinking 7 times is warning ya about that tornado
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post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-26-2007, 01:26 PM
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Don't forget your engine kill switch, it's not in the off position is it?

I would say a neutral sensor, but it wouldn't even turn over if that was not right.

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post #5 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-26-2007, 01:27 PM
 
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Is the F1 "First Gear" as in you have a digital device that states what gear you are in?

Or could the bike be reading your kickstand is down? Are you sure it's in Neutral? If you have it in gear and are pulling the clutch in with the kickstand up the bike may not sense that the clutch is all the way pulled and won't start. When I got my new clutch it would sometimes start with a pulled clutch and other times it wouldn't start with a pulled clutch.
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I was thinkin that too, but it wouldn't be turning over if it were those.

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post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-26-2007, 01:55 PM
 
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FI?? Like, Fuel Injection?

(It's FI not F1)

Check your owners manual for the error code.
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post #8 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-26-2007, 01:57 PM
 
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Wow. A bike that tells you what's wrong with it. What will they think of next. If you don't have a manual to find out what it's saying, why not visit your local Honda dealer and make friends with the shop manager? I'm on a first name basis with mine.

If it was my bike, I would lift the rear and see if the wheel can spin in neutral. Then I would pull a spark plug. If the plugs are hard to get to, a timing light latched onto one will tell you if there is a spark.
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I wish there were an option that said "read owner's manual".
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Crank or timing sensor of some kind.

Get a service manual!

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Crank or timing sensor of some kind.

Get a service manual!

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I bet that FI light is throwing a diagnostic code. write down how many times it flashes, and figure out what the code means. remember, bike on board diagnostics are like the OBD 1 system in cars, light will flash a few times, brief pause, then it'll flash a few more, which is your code.

for example, your FI, check engine, idiot light flashes 3 times, then a brief pause, then it flashes 5 times, that would be a trouble code 35, which may mean you have a disgruntled midget in the motor.
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I bet that FI light is throwing a diagnostic code. write down how many times it flashes, and figure out what the code means. remember, bike on board diagnostics are like the OBD 1 system in cars, light will flash a few times, brief pause, then it'll flash a few more, which is your code.

for example, your FI, check engine, idiot light flashes 3 times, then a brief pause, then it flashes 5 times, that would be a trouble code 35, which may mean you have a disgruntled midget in the motor.
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I recently changed the clutch on my bike. When i put the clutch back in I did an oil change. I went to go start it after all of that was done. It ran before I put the clutch in. But the bike willn't start, the fuel pump turns on but the bike just cranks but willn't fire up. So i called a couple people. They told me to check the sensor behind the headlight. I never even messed with it. All i did was change my clutch thats the only area i was in. There is a little box on the inside wall of the clutch cover that points to the timing chain i think. I was wondering would that have anything to do with it not starting. Everybody I ask cant really help me. So i'm on here also there is a f1 and a light that blinks 7 times. I want to try and figure it out before I take it to the shop and spend crazy money. If you have any ideas please help me. It been a while since i have rode and i'm going through withdrawl.
Well look's like you got a couple of great answer from are sarcastic group of TWF but look am a mechanic on cars and the easiest thing you can do to keep from losing your hair is "keep it simple" if you didnt Cuck with anythin like your starter or anythin like that then 90% of the time its not that.. you said you changed you clutch i dont have a honda so i dont know the precedure but am sure you can find a service manual. Now a clutch wouldnt have anything to do with the crankin so it is crankin then you good... check you plugs who knows they could of been on their way out sounds like your not gettin the spark to ignite the gas. now about the box yes if your motor can not find (TDC-top dead center) on cyclinder one it will not fire i sure if you crank the hell of the motor long enough she will start but shut right off cause it cant find the pattern its needs to run... but i suggest next time dont work on your own bike inless you have a descent idea of what your doing... otherwise you end up in this situation or at least GET A SERVICE MANUAL
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post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-03-2007, 12:17 PM
 
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Register here http://www.repairmanualclub.com/index.php

They have a manual for your bike that you can download. The free account allows you ONE download per day. If you slip them some $$ thru PayPal, you can download more.

Lots of manuals on that site

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