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New Chain and Rivet Link

I just installed my new DID chain. I got the master link on and pressed the o-rings in. But I just figured out I don't have a clip for the master link. It's a rivet where it looks like a hollow point bullet.

I'm thinking of using a punch to mushroom the rivet out. Has anyone else done that? Or is there a better way?

Also what is best to get the grease off of the chain?
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There is a cheap motion pro tool you can buy to press on the rivet style master link.

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I'm gonna need a new chain next season.



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I just installed my new DID chain. I got the master link on and pressed the o-rings in. But I just figured out I don't have a clip for the master link. It's a rivet where it looks like a hollow point bullet.

I'm thinking of using a punch to mushroom the rivet out. Has anyone else done that? Or is there a better way?

Also what is best to get the grease off of the chain?
If the master link is a clip-type, (it has a recess around both pins for the spring clip) do not try to peen the pins down...the link will fail. If it is a press type link, then use a chain tool to mushroom the head.
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It's not a clip. It is hollowed out to allow mushrooming.

I've seen some chain rivet tools but am having trouble finding one. I looked at Northern Tool and Sears but couldn't find one on their website. I'd go to a motorcycle store but I'm lucky if I get to stop by one. I normally start work from between 6am-8am and feel lucky if i get off around 8pm. With the closest store about 30minutes away. I've been having to order all my parts and have the store mail them to me. (Which makes the costs even more lovely)

And me finding time to get my bike in is about impossible. I'm hoping I get a chance to get it into a bike shop this week for the carbs to be synched and the tires to be put on. But so far not looking good.

I'm thinking of taking a C clamp and getting a dome punch. If I hacksaw the dome part off and superglue it to the bottom of the clamp and put a flat peice of steel on the backside of the clamp near the already shroomed out rivet I think I can get it to work.

But if someone knows where I could find a chain rivet tool at a store that is open late or on Sunday that would be great. Northern Tool isn't too far form me an I can get to a Sears fairly easy. Plus Autozone/Advanced/Napa/etc are near me too. Just no motorcycle stores and I can't think of a motorcycle store in the world that is open on Sunday.
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Ah sweet. I got that. I used it to push the chain link onto the rivet.

I guess I could turn it upside down so I don't have the channels for the rivet to mushroom the rivet out. But should probably use a punch to get it started in the right way.

Or is there a better way to use that to shroom the rivet out?
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You MUST use the proper tool.

If you try the c-clamp thing the chain WILL fail. I know I have been there before. Many years ago, before I started to wrench myself.. I had this guy do the EXACT same thing you were talking about. It lasted about a week then came off while I was entering the highway... 70mph and about 10,000 RPM... SNAP.

it destroyed the front sprocket cover, speedo pick up, water pump, oil pump shaft, undertail, rear tail, the chain, hit the swingarm, , rear tire hugger and chain gaurd, and a bunch of other stuff.

I don't have great pics of this...






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If you have that tool, its all you need. Thats what it is for, bending the ends of the rivets.


The side with the slot goes on the back of the chain. The side you wrench from goes on the front. Read the instructions if you have them, or look at the picture on the motionpro site.

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If I use the slot side then I don't believe it will mushroom. Because the slot seems to be more for allowing you to put pressure on the link without hitting the rivets.

I thought about flipping it upside down so the flat part would hit the rivet but I'm afraid it might shroom inward.

I do have the chain in a continuous loop with the link(Dog bone part) connecting the chain all the way together. With the chain on the sprockets.

By the way appreciate the help guys. First bike I have mechaniced on so it's a little weird to me.
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I don't understand. If you have that tool, it is a chain press tool, the whole purpose of it is to put on a rivet style master link....



The side you need to bend the rivets on is facing up in this pic.

Put the open end of the rivets in the slot, and crank down, thats all there is to it.

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I don't understand. If you have that tool, it is a chain press tool, the whole purpose of it is to put on a rivet style master link....
If you are saying it is for putting the dog bone shaped link on then I got that part taken care of. I'm having trouble with getting the actual rivet to mushroom out...
Here are some pictures.

You can see they haven't mushroomed out

And here is the device on...


Maybe I'm missing something but I don't think that tool is for muchrooming the rivet.
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Yeah, it is. Crank down the middle bolt just like you have it on there now. It kind of comes out with an oval shape when you are done.

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It lasted about a week then came off while I was entering the highway... 70mph and about 10,000 RPM... SNAP.

it destroyed the front sprocket cover, speedo pick up, water pump, oil pump shaft, undertail, rear tail, the chain, hit the swingarm, , rear tire hugger and chain gaurd, and a bunch of other stuff.
Wow GM... you're lucky it didn't take a chunk out of your friggin' leg!!!!
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Wow GM... you're lucky it didn't take a chunk out of your friggin' leg!!!!
Very lucky!!

I can't see the pics now at work...

When Pickle says put the slotted side on the back... we are figuring you put the link with the posts thru the back side of the chain, if you're sitting on the ground on the left side of the bike. Then the dog bone end piece on the side facing you.

The slots that you put on the backside of the chain is to allow for proper grip of the link for you to press the front plate on. Once you get it pressed on the rivits will mushroom over.




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I just installed my new DID chain. I got the master link on and pressed the o-rings in. But I just figured out I don't have a clip for the master link. It's a rivet where it looks like a hollow point bullet.

I'm thinking of using a punch to mushroom the rivet out. Has anyone else done that? Or is there a better way?

Also what is best to get the grease off of the chain?
i did mine with a center punch, took a grinder to the punch to make the right angle, 1000 miles so far no prob, not sure i would do it unless youre pretty confident in your skills though, easy to do wrong.
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Well I cranked down as hard as I could on it without using a cheater bar on the hex wrench. But it still looks lik it hasn't shroomed out. I'll try to get a better picture of it tommorow that isn't so blurry.

I have worked at a machine shop and have used punches before. But I don't have a good strong platform to punch the chain against with it being on my bike.

Hopefully I'll have the bike in the shop getting the carbs synched up this week. I'll have them do it especially since they'll also be replacing my tires.
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You sure it isn't? Try popping it off with a screwdriver, it is probably stuck on there you just can't see it.

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Did you get it yet?

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Did you get it yet?
I took it to a shop to have the carbs cleaned and retuned. Whew that's gonna be expensive (Plus 4quarts of synthetic and a BMC air filter).

I showed him the chain and he said I had it on too tight but he was sure he could fix it. He said it looks like it mushroomed some but that he'd make it right.
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