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Fairing Bolts? (With better prices than OEM)

http://www.bikebolts.com I found these people and was wondering about them.

I looked at the kit and the price looks much better than the Honda OEM price(Understatement of the century). Which for all bolts from Honda is about $150. F that. These kits are $35 for full kit or $45 with colored however you want it.

But I noticed these bolt's don't have the smooth part at the top of the bolt along the threads. I have heard that using regular Allen bolts will cause the plastics to break becuase it needs to be specific.

With these designs I noticed it was threaded all the way. But some had sleeves. Are these sleeves going to do what the smooth threads do on the OEM parts? Or will they actually be better? Or will I have threads contacting plastic.

Because $35($45 for colored) seems great to me for 108 peices. But I don't want to cheap out and have plastics flying off on me.

Plus is there a great place to find plastics besides Ebay and Craigs list. My top right front cowl is busted and needs to be replaced. $470 from Honda. Which I could get a full Repsol kit for a couple hundred more. But I'm not wanting the Repsol kit.

One motorcycle shop recomended a "Willies Junk Yark" in Alabama. Or something like that. I know it's in Alabama. Has anyone delt with them before? If so how were the prices. Because I need a new front cowl, headlight cover(Bottom of top cowling), and this Triangular piece for the right fairing that goes on the inside. After that I should have all my plastics.

PS. The Bike is a 1996 CBR600 F3
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http://www.bikebolts.com I found these people and was wondering about them.

I looked at the kit and the price looks much better than the Honda OEM price(Understatement of the century). Which for all bolts from Honda is about $150. F that. These kits are $35 for full kit or $45 with colored however you want it.

But I noticed these bolt's don't have the smooth part at the top of the bolt along the threads. I have heard that using regular Allen bolts will cause the plastics to break becuase it needs to be specific.

With these designs I noticed it was threaded all the way. But some had sleeves. Are these sleeves going to do what the smooth threads do on the OEM parts? Or will they actually be better? Or will I have threads contacting plastic.

Because $35($45 for colored) seems great to me for 108 peices. But I don't want to cheap out and have plastics flying off on me.

Plus is there a great place to find plastics besides Ebay and Craigs list. My top right front cowl is busted and needs to be replaced. $470 from Honda. Which I could get a full Repsol kit for a couple hundred more. But I'm not wanting the Repsol kit.

One motorcycle shop recomended a "Willies Junk Yark" in Alabama. Or something like that. I know it's in Alabama. Has anyone delt with them before? If so how were the prices. Because I need a new front cowl, headlight cover(Bottom of top cowling), and this Triangular piece for the right fairing that goes on the inside. After that I should have all my plastics.

PS. The Bike is a 1996 CBR600 F3
Ya can find em on ebay too. The smaller bolts dont have the shoulder on em, ie the bolts along the upper n lower fairing, ram air/air duct covers, etc. This is going by my F4, yours may differ. But yea the should prevents you from over tightening them n cracking the fairing.
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yeah willies junk yard or what ever has a phone number and web site, i got a few parts from them for my 1st bike, im trying to fing the contact info, prices are about junk yard prices!
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I ordered the Fairing Bolts today. So I'll see how they work out.

As for the "Junkyard Prices". Half the time when I go to a Junkyard I come out more pissed than I went in. They make so much freaking money they don't have to give a crap. Even though the parts are cheaper than buying new OEM they still ain't cheap in comparrison of what it could be.

But I'll call them and try to find out. On top of calling some local junkyards.
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For $150 you might as well buy the Lightech bolts which are top of line from what I have seen. They sell kits for the engine, fairing, frame etc....
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I checked them out. They didn't have anything for a CBR600 F3. Just you newer bikes.

Now if I could just find my fairing parts I'd be in heaven.
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I checked them out. They didn't have anything for a CBR600 F3. Just you newer bikes.

Now if I could just find my fairing parts I'd be in heaven.
some1 was parting a F3 out on cbrforum
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some1 was parting a F3 out on cbrforum
I saw them. Apparently they haven't logged in since November 2nd. So I'm guessing they are parted out.

I was also looking on Georgia Sport Bike forums and there were some junkyards mentioned. Which there is one near me that I can see has a ton of bikes out there. But I think it's a dealer auction type deal.

And Kurveygirl did sound a little dirty. So of course I clicked on it. But not really needing pins. But I got the $35 set on the way from Bikerboltz. And from their Ebay account they had a 99.5% positive feedback. Which I am assuming is good.

Here are the fairing parts that I need. If I can get the two bottom circled peices I think I can use a glue that PG mentioned in another thread and rig the top right fairing back. I figure worste case it flys off and knocks me off the bike into on comming traffic full of 18wheelers loaded down with razor blades.
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Those things look legit, and if you can colormatch they'd really clean up the look of the bike.

There are two questions I have, though:

1. What material are they made out of? If you are downgrading to a softer metal or one that will rust easily, it's not worth it.

2. Is the color painted on, like they just dip the ends in paint? If so, after a couple wrenchings, it will look like chit.
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I'm going non-painted now. I haven't decided what to paint my bike yet but I want the fairings on there once I get the bike running. On my bike only few fairing bolts are exposed and if necesarry I can order individual bolts that are painted.

Answers from the website:
1. Button head stainless steel screws are used throughout these kits. They are all made of 18-8 stainless steel and have a higher resistance to yield than the regular factory steel screws. (No clue wether that is better, worse, same)

2. The colored screws are color coated with a baked on powder coat enamel that is cured at temperatures ranging from 400F to 450F. The coating is extremely resistant to chipping, scratching, or peeling. Only the head of the screws are powder coated to prevent build-up in the thread grooves. The type of powder coat used is known in the industry as a TGIC or (triglycidyl isocyanurate) powder. This powder is commonly used on wheels (automotive & motorcycle), motorcycle frames, and aluminum extrusions. This coating is not indestructible but is far superior to paint and anodizing.

The Chrome is actually a polished stainless steel finish. By polishing the stainless steel screw head to a mirror finish, the finish of the polished stainless steel exceeds the chrome plating shine and includes the superior corrosion resistance of stainless steel.

I did like this answer they had under the FAQs
Q: Is there any weight advantage to these bolts (They say more but this part is a "Key Note" they put at the bottom)
A: KEY NOTE: The weight savings of any aftermarket fairing screw kit is very minor, if any. So minor in fact that the difference of whether you ate a big dinner or are wearing your boots vs. your gym shoes is likely to have a much larger impact. Trying to save weight on your bike by changing the fairing bolts is like trying to lose weight by getting a hair cut.

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Looks like the pic didn't take on the other post. So here is a direct link to my flickr with the pic...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/atlanta...84/2090750986/
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Yeah, I wasn't sure if you were getting normal bolts or Dzus fasteners... she has greta prices on the dzus's , which are the best choice for track plastics.

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I'm going non-painted now. I haven't decided what to paint my bike yet but I want the fairings on there once I get the bike running. On my bike only few fairing bolts are exposed and if necesarry I can order individual bolts that are painted.

Answers from the website:
1. Button head stainless steel screws are used throughout these kits. They are all made of 18-8 stainless steel and have a higher resistance to yield than the regular factory steel screws. (No clue wether that is better, worse, same)

2. The colored screws are color coated with a baked on powder coat enamel that is cured at temperatures ranging from 400F to 450F. The coating is extremely resistant to chipping, scratching, or peeling. Only the head of the screws are powder coated to prevent build-up in the thread grooves. The type of powder coat used is known in the industry as a TGIC or (triglycidyl isocyanurate) powder. This powder is commonly used on wheels (automotive & motorcycle), motorcycle frames, and aluminum extrusions. This coating is not indestructible but is far superior to paint and anodizing.

The Chrome is actually a polished stainless steel finish. By polishing the stainless steel screw head to a mirror finish, the finish of the polished stainless steel exceeds the chrome plating shine and includes the superior corrosion resistance of stainless steel.

I did like this answer they had under the FAQs
Q: Is there any weight advantage to these bolts (They say more but this part is a "Key Note" they put at the bottom)
A: KEY NOTE: The weight savings of any aftermarket fairing screw kit is very minor, if any. So minor in fact that the difference of whether you ate a big dinner or are wearing your boots vs. your gym shoes is likely to have a much larger impact. Trying to save weight on your bike by changing the fairing bolts is like trying to lose weight by getting a hair cut.

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Looks like the pic didn't take on the other post. So here is a direct link to my flickr with the pic...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/atlanta...84/2090750986/

Interesting... yeah I didn't take the time to read through the site, just glanced at it.

But in that case, 18-8 is decent grade of stainless, and the baked-on color sounds legit. That would be a slick upgrade to any bike in color match, or a good alternatives for OEM for anyone who is missing some pieces.

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