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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 03:30 PM Thread Starter
 
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Possible motor damage?

I have an option to keep a bike that i got into an accident with for $500, its a 2005 ninja 250 with 3700miles. My question is this...

After the crash the acelorator got stuck and it was probably revved at about 8k or 9k rpms and the bike was on its side so the motor probably was not getting any oil and i think it took me like 10-12 seconds to respond and shut it off.

The oil and filter was changed maybe 150 mile before the accident so it had fresh synthetic oil in it. Is this 10 - 12 seconds of running enough to cause any damage? I have to pick the bike up today from the bike shop in case i was to keep it.

only thing i can think of doing it pulling the oil screen and check for any chunks... but that might not be enough... i dunno.
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 03:51 PM
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Though I have no professional or technical basis for my opinion, I wouldn't want it after that.
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Personally I wouldn't worry about oil starvation for 10 - 12 seconds, especially if you had synthetic in it.
I have observed (before the rules of tip over switches) where racers would crash, collect himself, walk over pick up his bike while it was still running and get back on and rev it to the moon while racing. The engines are tough and I would think the "splash effect" would be pretty good for that short amount of time. IMHO
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If you'rethat worried about it.... drain the oil and check color and consistency. Then cut the oil filter open and check for excessive metal shavings.




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If you'rethat worried about it.... drain the oil and check color and consistency. Then cut the oil filter open and check for excessive metal shavings.
Thats an idea... im not that worried i just wanted an opinion. No idea how long these things can go without getting much oil. I know i was able to brake so hard on the bike that the oil light turned on before. I have not notice much adverse affects so i think it should be ok. Thanks for all the quick responses.
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well i got the bike back from the shop and i notice something that worried me, the rear wheel does no spin freely when the bike is on the center stand. I think maybe the forks or the frame got bent and now the front forks are at a different angle.
Looks like i'll be giving back to the insurance company if they still let me... what do you guys think of all this?
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With the new 250 out I personally wouldn't put it back together. If you want an answer have an oil analysis done. Ask someone you know who owns a Dodge with a V8, they'll know where and how much it costs. lol
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well i got the bike back from the shop and i notice something that worried me, the rear wheel does no spin freely when the bike is on the center stand. I think maybe the forks or the frame got bent and now the front forks are at a different angle.
Looks like i'll be giving back to the insurance company if they still let me... what do you guys think of all this?
Its hard to say without detail from your crash. Do you mind sharing what happened?
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Alright well i was headed north, and this lady was headed south but making a left turn. I had two lanes of traffic and left lane was fully stopped while right lane was 100% open, i say i was going about 40mph when i noticed the nose of her car creeping out from between the cars, i immediatly started to turn a bit to the right so that it would give her some more time to see me and maybe some room for me to get by; well she just kept going and tottaly blocked my path of travel.

She never saw me and the front left of my bike got hit by the front right corner of her car, the fairing stays left side broke off healigh gauge cluster all dead and of course the upper fairing and lower fairing had some damage to it. when i hit my hip hit handle bar bending it forward (hurt quite a bit but that was the worst of my injuries). there looks like there was some impact with the car and my lower left triple clamp.

I dont have any pics unfortunatly.
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Alright well i was headed north, and this lady was headed south but making a left turn. I had two lanes of traffic and left lane was fully stopped while right lane was 100% open, i say i was going about 40mph when i noticed the nose of her car creeping out from between the cars, i immediatly started to turn a bit to the right so that it would give her some more time to see me and maybe some room for me to get by; well she just kept going and tottaly blocked my path of travel.

She never saw me and the front left of my bike got hit by the front right corner of her car, the fairing stays left side broke off healigh gauge cluster all dead and of course the upper fairing and lower fairing had some damage to it. when i hit my hip hit handle bar bending it forward (hurt quite a bit but that was the worst of my injuries). there looks like there was some impact with the car and my lower left triple clamp.

I dont have any pics unfortunatly.
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That sounds like a recipe for frame and fork damage.
Yep well bike is going back to the insurance company. I actually am getting a pretty decent deal bought my bike for $1300 spent about $400 for repairs and getting paid back $2500 from insurance. Also getting helmet replaced and some money for the clothes and shoes that i was wearing and $500 for the big bruise on my hip that healed up already.

Although this is not the way i wanted to upgrade my bike it's not as bad in the end; just happy i healed up ok.
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bikes are easy to replace, glad to hear your ok

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