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Question Suzuki TRE Modification More HP and throttle response?

what is this? a TRE Time Retarding Eliminator is this for real , it fools the bike into thinking it's in 6th gear so you get the full throttle response your engine actually produces in all gears ??? is this just a Suzuki thing?? I want one for my GSXR750

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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 02-15-2005, 07:37 PM
 
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Sounds pretty sweet. Do you have an article on this??
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Yeah I have it on my bikes. Works awsome. I mean awsome....but get your from gixxer.com's store it is much cheaper.
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Like twisty said...get them from gixxer.com. you will NOT find a better price on them. they are made by a guy named jeff wallace and sold by gixxer. he even offers one with a toggle switch. also it makes the coomputer think its in 5th gear all the time. the timing retard doesnt kick in till the upper rpm range of 6th. i also hear it smoothes things out on the bottom end too like that jerking trait that busas have when cruising at low speeds.
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For the michigan peeps...

You can get them for about $65 at Rec...




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or 30 bucks from gixxer.com
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OIC!! Good point... buy it from gixxer.com and send me the extra cash!! YA, that will work!!




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Yeah if it involves a Suzuki, I can get you the best deal.
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If this stops the low speed bucking on a 'busa, I'm very interested.... how difficult is it to install?

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it takes 10 mins and it will stop the bucking.
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The TRE's are AWESOME and are as easy as plugging in your cell phone!




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30 bucks ???? i might get it for the sv would it be worth it to a newbie
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Yeah I have it on my bikes. Works awsome. I mean awsome....but get your from gixxer.com's store it is much cheaper.
SO IS IT JUST FOR SUZUKIS OR WHAT? CAN SOMEONE TAKE THE TIME TO ELABORATE ON THIS? MY ROOMATE HAS A GSXR 1000 AND MIGHT BE INTERESTED.
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All a TRE (Timing Retard Eliminator) does is "fool" the CDI into thinking the bike is always in 5th gear.

On certain Suzuki models, and the Kaw ZX10R, there is a gear indicator which goes to the CDI. For each gear, there is a different ignition timing map. The maps for 1st - 4th gears have less ignition advance in lower RPMs to make the bike more "streetable" - in effect, they detune the motor so it is less responsive in lower RPMs. On the big-bore bikes, the 6th gear ignition map also acts as the speed governer by severly retarding ignition at high RPM.

With a TRE, you're always using the 5th gear map. This gives you more ignition advance at lower RPMs and no speed limit in 6th gear. That's all it does. We sell the original "Ivan's TRE" for $60 (everything else is a copy or variation of his).

The result is quicker response and more midrange power in lower gears. The downside is that it makes the throttle a bit more twitchy at the same time. It's not an optimal ignition mapping ... but for $60, it is what it is.

This is also nothing new We do the same thing with Japanese NSR250 two-stroke GP replicas. Japan had a national 47hp limit for that displacement/bike type - even though the motor will make 60 without any modification. The same basic trick works ... we fool the bike into using a lower gear ignition map that isn't restricted.

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Ahhh, very good info... thank you ALL.
Suprised I haven't heard of this before.

I am going to have to invest in one of these.

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