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post #1 of 95 (permalink) Old 02-16-2005, 07:40 PM Thread Starter
 
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Tuning A Power Commander

WOULD IT BE A WASTE OF $ FOR ME TO GET MY POWER COMMANDER TUNED ON A DYNO OR JUST SETTLE WITH THE MAP THE DEALER HAS FOR MY BIKE WITH WHATEVER MODS I HAVE? I HAD A SLIP ON AND A K&N INSTALLED AND I REALLY CAN'T FEAL A DIFFERENCE. THE TOP SPEED HASN'T CHANGED AND THE ACCELERATION FEELS THE SAME.
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Custom MAPs are the only way to go. Get it to a shop that has good crediability and a dyno.

Here's a couple threads on custom maps. Listen up to what Larry tells ya!!

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It's never a waste of money to have it custom mapped, however, if you don't feel any differences in your bike, then no need to spend the extra $$$. Custom tuning is really for when you can notice a difference somewhere...for example, sluggish at a certain point, etc, or when you install a full system. Also, with just a slip on, a PC really won't make that much of a difference. It definitely helps and keeps your bike from running too lean, but it's not a requirement to have. The map that they probably gave you is a general map for that pipe and easily downloadable off of dynojet's site.

Custom mapping is definitely cool to watch, because you can see how it really can make a difference in getting a smoother curve...but with just a slip on, you really don't need it. Save your money.
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Thanks For The Advice. I Think I'll Just Go Down To Dynojet R&d Facility And Have Them Map It For Me Just To Make Sure The Right One Is In There. Their Facility Is Literaly Down The Street From Me. They Said They'd Do It For Free So Why Not?
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Thanks For The Advice. I Think I'll Just Go Down To Dynojet R&d Facility And Have Them Map It For Me Just To Make Sure The Right One Is In There. Their Facility Is Literaly Down The Street From Me. They Said They'd Do It For Free So Why Not?
Very cool! With that at your disposal, how could you not let them do it????
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Thanks For The Advice. I Think I'll Just Go Down To Dynojet R&d Facility And Have Them Map It For Me Just To Make Sure The Right One Is In There. Their Facility Is Literaly Down The Street From Me. They Said They'd Do It For Free So Why Not?
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Im sure they can show some improvement on the numbers, but I dont think you will fell any real world difference.

On my GSXR it made a world of difference after I sold the bolt on pipe and replaced with a full system. I was always disappointed with the $$$ I spent on the PCIII until then.

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I Can't Be As Upset About You For What You Paid For A Pciii. I Got A K&n A Slip On And The Pciii For 25 Bucks Brand New. I Spilled My Bike And Got All That From My Insurance Claim. I Got All That Instead Of The Stock Pipe Which Costs $825 So I Can't Complain. It's Like 200 Bones To Tune It So I'll Just Have Dynojet Map It For Free.
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Dynojet will tune the bike for FREE??? Damn, sounds like I may want to take a road trip to Vegas next year. Sure, it will cost me money getting there, but I'll be in Vegas where I can quickly win it back plus some.
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I Can't Be As Upset About You For What You Paid For A Pciii. I Got A K&n A Slip On And The Pciii For 25 Bucks Brand New. I Spilled My Bike And Got All That From My Insurance Claim. I Got All That Instead Of The Stock Pipe Which Costs $825 So I Can't Complain. It's Like 200 Bones To Tune It So I'll Just Have Dynojet Map It For Free.
Cant beat that deal with a . $20 for a PCIII and free tune!

Why cant I be that lucky?

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Dynojet will tune the bike for FREE??? Damn, sounds like I may want to take a road trip to Vegas next year. Sure, it will cost me money getting there, but I'll be in Vegas where I can quickly win it back plus some.
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Careful Captain!
You may not have gas $$$ home.
Yeah, I've been to Vegas and Tunica several times. I've had my share of losses.
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If you get a PDA and download the power commend software to it. You can tune your self like you were on dyno. It is pretty slick. You plug the pda in to you PC and take you bike for a spin down the highway getting up into the RPms. It will get you close but not dead on like a real dyno will.
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I Can't Be As Upset About You For What You Paid For A Pciii. I Got A K&n A Slip On And The Pciii For 25 Bucks Brand New. I Spilled My Bike And Got All That From My Insurance Claim. I Got All That Instead Of The Stock Pipe Which Costs $825 So I Can't Complain. It's Like 200 Bones To Tune It So I'll Just Have Dynojet Map It For Free.
YO TWISTY!!!

Does this sound like anybody else you know???

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Sounds like he is your bother
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YO TWISTY!!!

Does this sound like anybody else you know???

And that PDA thing sounds cool as heck!!!
The PDA thing only works on older PDAs and PCIII with serial - they do not have a version of the software for newer PDAs with USB (which you would need to connect to a PCIIIusb). I suppose you could strap a laptop to your tank though ...

And beyond that ... no offense, but it's about as usefull as tuning a set of carbs by the "Seat of your pants". (Actually less, because with a power commander, you can download a map for your pipe that's going to at least put you on the dance floor. With carbs ... you start with a baseline jetting, hope it at least fires up and runs, then go from there). You'd have to make drastic changes in the fuel mapping to even feel the difference while riding, and still wouldn't know if it's even close to what you could be getting when you "felt" it was right.

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PDA-dyno makes a connector and software that tells Horsepower and the effects of changing you mapping per RPM range. It is highly effective software that Pro AMA teams using to find better air/mixs @ the track where standard dynos are not located. It also works with PCIII/usb and the Yosh box. In some cases this more effective than standard dynos because this software works in the real world that dyno does not have the airflow factors that we do when we are on the track.

So no offense taken.

PS it works for cars too.

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You have by the conncetor seperate. I think you can it form Nologys website. There was a guy using @ the track one day and the whole setup was sweet. I just need a pda.
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I just did a search on the internet and there is huge market for this PDA stuff I found about 8 that will work on bike and claim to as good as a real dyno. I think I gonna buy one.

And you pull engine codes form your bike and your car.

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