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Lightbulb Scotts Lifetime High Performence Oil Filter

How would you like to buy only one filter for the life of your bike? Do you want to be able to filter out anything even something the size of a white blood cell? Can you say cleaner oil and more engine life?

Twisty and I have been big advocates of these filters.

Scotts (same as the stabalizer) makes a oil filter that is beyond AWESOME! I figured I'd turn some you onto this, especially sense there is a number of you that have purchased new bike recently.

Here's a link to their site: Scotts Performence Products


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Oil Filters: Superior Filtration:
This should be the last oil filter you will ever buy! Made from laser cut, medical grade, 304 stainless steel micronic filter cloth, this filter provides 200% more filter area in many cases. Most good paper filters will pass particles in the 90 to 95 micron range, and some tested, as much as 300 microns. Sand is about 125 microns and a white blood cell approximately 25 microns. Our stainless filter catches items down to 35 microns "absolute", which is about 3 times better than most good paper or brass filters. The pleat seam is welded, able to withstand up to 600 degrees in our filter, not glued, like paper filters.

Cleanable and reusable:
Simply remove the filter, rinse in clean solvent and replace it, you're done. The filter can be cleaned with solvent, kerosene, aerosol carburetor cleaner, or any other degreasing agent, even common dish soap. You can even blow air through the filter from the inside out to remove any small particles or cleaning agent from the screen if you so desire.

Consistent flow under all conditions:
Stainless steel will stand up to the stress of heat, high pressure and physical handling much better than paper or brass. This filter maintains consistent flow under all conditions including cold start ups and or under extreme heat. A one inch square of this micron filter material will flow 1.9 gallons of 90 weight oil per minute at only 1 psi pump pressure (70 degrees F). Our typical filter size is 30 sq. in. which equals the flow of 57 gallons per minute. Standard paper filters do not flow well when the oil is cold, often causing the bypass valve to open allowing unfiltered oil to enter your engine, uhg!

Unaffected by Water, Heat and Pressure:
This filter is capable of withstanding extremely high pressure and flow rates. It is also unaffected by Water, Heat and Pressure, unlike standard paper filter material which swells in the presence of water, closing off filter pores and reducing flow.

Early Detection:
By allowing you to inspect the debris that is in the filter you can monitor your engines condition, avoiding minor and or catastrophic failures.

What is a Micron?
A micron is one thousandth of a millimeter. That's about .00003937 inches. Fine sand can be as small as 62 microns thick. Our filter will not allow any particle over 35 microns to pass through this filter, that's some pretty small stuff that's being caught.

So who uses this type of filtration?
This high tech filter technology is widely used in all types of auto racing including NASCAR, Indy type cars, Formula 1 and in the Aerospace industry where filtration is of the utmost importance.

Things to think about:
Next time you are fanning your clutch think about all that tiny debris that is created from the clutch and gears meshing together, spinning around in your motor's vital parts. If you really care about the life of your motor and consider the cost of loss of time associated with a current day 4-stroke motor, then you need one of these filters. It's even transferrable in some cases to your next bike. I used the same filter in my last three bikes, and it's still like brand new, there's simply nothing to wear out.

Environmental benefits
In addition to all the other benefits, our filter helps keep the land fills free of old used filters.

This filter is proudly made in the USA.
They are sometimes pricey but think about this...

For example my bike's filter is $120... so at $10 a piece for a K&N oil filter I would have to get more than 12 filter changes to validate the price of the Scotts... unless you take into consideration the superior filtration of the Scotts.



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You can get them for 90. They are the best.
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I look at this when I first got my 12... But I never ran into somebody else that have used them... So when you do an oil change what do you do to clean it...? That's the part that concerns me...
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Wash, dry and reinstall.

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Wash, dry and reinstall.
Wash... With What?
Dry... Ok what, Drip dry...
Reinstall...
It not like you can put that thing in the dish washer...
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or can you?
not that I would!
Wash with degreaser.
Blow it out with air or drip dry.

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pretty much. They are great.
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but are they dish washer safe?

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Bah. Filter Schmilter. I use a coffee filter and a rubber band.










Hehe..no... that looks pretty cool. How many miles before it needs a cleaning?

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Same as regular filter.

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It is best to clean it with something like kerosene...




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Opinions are like a##holes everyone has 1.And on the net you can find alot of 'em.That said: I take product info from manufacturers with a grain of salt.
Which leads me to this opinion off the internet~

There's a new type of filter being marketed, the "laser cut stainless steel filter," which we're told is "good for the life of your vehicle."

These filters typically have 35-40 micron holes, which is really not acceptable. They typically have 30-40 square inches of filter material, which is really not acceptable. A paper based element is a 3 dimensional filter - when a particle gets stuck deep in the filter element, oil can still flow around it. The stainless steel elements are 2 dimensional - when a particle gets caught, one of the holes is clogged up.

I don't see how you can assure that all the holes get cleared out when you clean these. Certainly simply soaking the filter in kerosene is not going to release particles that have been jammed into a hole at 60psi. Blowing the filter out with air sounds good, but a motorcycle filter is too small to let an air hose inside.

These stainless steel filters cost about $120, about 25 times what I pay for a Pure One. Since I use my filters for about 8,000 miles, that means I have to go 200,000 miles to break even. I've never put more than 60,000 miles on a vehicle.

I don't think this technology is ready to use yet. When the holes get down to 20 microns, and the surface area up to about 100-150 square inches, then I think I'll consider using one. Meanwhile, "good for the life of your vehicle" is not an impressive claim if the device shortens the life of your vehicle.

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That's an interesting argument!
I rarely do more than 3 oil/filter changes before sale/trading a bike.
I have researched the product and haven't found it to be cost effective yet.

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If you somebody that changes the oil filter at least twice a year and you just bought the bike. Furthermore, you are somebody who owns a bike till it is dead... then it is VERY cost effective! I wish I would just have bought one when my bike was new!




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BOUNCE!

Add this to your XMas list!




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I agree with R1sharknose and will add that I want a filter that will remove the smaller particulates that lead to premature bore polishing . 20 microns is a good filter for the time and I can have that now. I expect even better filtering and longetivety from the filter makers soon because of the demands or needs of the newer automotive 20wts carrying dirty oil through the bearings with such light film thickness . Deserves another topic there actually .
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You can get them for 90. They are the best.
Damnit! I wanted to give some reps to twisty but I guess you can't rep banned ppl. I think it's crap that his post count doesn't show anymore either...
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Good bounce there Knight! These things are great if you plan on having your bike for a long time. Even more so if its a race bike that you are changing the oil every couple of track days.




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