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R6 and HotBodies Undertail...

I've had this HotBodies Undertail/fender eliminator for a long time now. Hotbodies gave crizzapy instructions on installation and everything so I was wondering if anyone can give me a STEP-BY-STEP set of instructions that are virtually idiota proof.

I asked my friend to do it for me but he said not until MAYBE this weekend. I can't wait that long cause I gotta ride the bike. As you all know, I got my plates stolen so I figure that I can ride with the undertail and then the cops will have to look for a plate rather than seeing this big, black gawdy looking thing that you KNOW a plate is supposed to be on.

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Yeah but virtually idiot-proof won't help you...
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Yeah but virtually idiot-proof won't help you...

Thanks, appreciate that one.
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What year is the R6?
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What year is the R6?
2005... I don't wanna pay the dealer to do it cause they want like $175.00 for an hours worth of work. Saying that I have to pay for heat shrink tubing and special connectors to put the blinker lights back working. I told them that these 'special connectors' had better be plated in gold and give me a bj while I ride.
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2005... I don't wanna pay the dealer to do it cause they want like $175.00 for an hours worth of work. Saying that I have to pay for heat shrink tubing and special connectors to put the blinker lights back working. I told them that these 'special connectors' had better be plated in gold and give me a bj while I ride.
Just so you know, installing undertails like that are a pain in the ass, and we'd charge 2 hours just for the aggrevation factor (ok, so that's only $90 in our world, and we actually wouldn't charge that unless it was a pain like a Busa and it took that long - You don't even want to try that one ... trust me).

Get thee a dremel with a cutting wheel, and hope for the best!

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Just so you know, installing undertails like that are a pain in the ass, and we'd charge 2 hours just for the aggrevation factor (ok, so that's only $90 in our world, and we actually wouldn't charge that unless it was a pain like a Busa and it took that long - You don't even want to try that one ... trust me).

Get thee a dremel with a cutting wheel, and hope for the best!

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Are you serious Roach? The dealer I took it to said it would take them like 5hr-6hrs to do it. I was like, "That's an entire day!" Hotbodies provides "instructions", if that is what you want to call it, but they don't say much considering they are only like 2 paragraphs for the entire installation process.
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Is this an undertail exhaust? Or just an undertail? If it's not exhaust, then I don't honestly see why you wasted your money. The stock undertail is nice and smooth with good lines. Plus it's an absolute cake walk to create your own fender eliminator for this bike. I'm wondering what all is involved in replacing the stock undertail. Do you know how to remove the stock undertail? It's simple. Take off the rear seat and unscrew the four allen head bolts. Then take a small flat head screw driver and pop out the centers of the six large plastic "rivets" on the undertail and remove those "rivets". Then take a pen or small allen wrench and push in the centers on the two plastic "rivets" at the front section of the undertail and remove those "rivets". Be careful that you don't drop any and lose them. Now it's just a matter of disconnecting wiring. The license plate light wires just pull loose and the rest is connectors. You'll have to do some splicing for signals, but I honestly don't know what and where because I've never seen the hotbodies undertail or their wiring. I still think you should send it back, buy the clear alternatives tail light with integrated signals from speedwerks and then create your own $5 fender eliminator. JMHO
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It's just the undertail with the LED blinkers. I got it cause I didn't want to go out and buy smaller blinkers for it. I liked the way that it looks. You can barely see the blinkers during the day though (saw it on someones bike around here) but at night it looks decent. Plus, I got it from Speedwerks.com...Gotta support 'em and Laura gave me a good deal on it.

I don't like the undertail exhaust, or at least the way it looks on the R6.

Thanks for the tips on the installation though.
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First off let's see some damn pics and links to it...then maybe we can figure out something.

Also, contact Hotbodies, tell them their instructions blow nuts and you need something better. They might have some suggestions.




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First off let's see some damn pics and links to it...then maybe we can figure out something.

Also, contact Hotbodies, tell them their instructions blow nuts and you need something better. They might have some suggestions.

1. Pictures of the undertail? or the bike tail section and new undertail?

2. I've tried to call Hotbodies, at Laura Roachs' advice, they didn't answer. She told me to call them cause the tails were on backorder for like 3 months when I wanted mine.
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Pics of everything... off the site...your bike...everything...




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Pics of everything... off the site...your bike...everything...

Here is the undertail that I got, bought from Speedwerks.com:



Pictures of the bike, well, nothing upclose and it's dark out so it'll have to wait until tomorrow.
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Thanks again Captain... Gonna go install it today.
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Here is the undertail that I got, bought from Speedwerks.com:



Pictures of the bike, well, nothing upclose and it's dark out so it'll have to wait until tomorrow.

Can Speedwerks offer any support on how to install? Often stores offer their support for a product they sell. Maybe they understnad the directions better?
I was looking at a HotBodies undertail, someone told me each bike is different and need a little trimming/ cutting to get it to fit just right. Dremmel is your best option. Close your eyes and hack away, hope for the best! Looks like a nice undertail, show some pics when you get it installed.
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I have found that most of your desent undertails are direct bolt up.

Usually you have to remove your tail section, and stock undertail. It looks like it retains your stock lights so that makes it a bit better.

Cut the stock wiring for the turns and wire up the new undertail turns. Unless they came with neat little connectors.

Mount the new undertail and place the tail section back over the subframe. Then attach the undertail to the tail section...

That is sort of the way I did my undertail.




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Are you serious Roach? The dealer I took it to said it would take them like 5hr-6hrs to do it. I was like, "That's an entire day!" Hotbodies provides "instructions", if that is what you want to call it, but they don't say much considering they are only like 2 paragraphs for the entire installation process.
In all seriousness - On the R6 we'd charge an hour, $45 (only because that's our minimum for a booked job) - it's actually pretty easy because the stock undertail is just held in by push pins. You really should go get a cheap crimping tool to crimp the butt connectors that come in the kit for the signal wiring - you can use a pair of thin needlenose, but it may not crimp the connector enough/correctly and the wires could come out.

Obviously, give me a call or drop me a line in email if you need anything!

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Can Speedwerks offer any support on how to install? Often stores offer their support for a product they sell. Maybe they understnad the directions better?
I was looking at a HotBodies undertail, someone told me each bike is different and need a little trimming/ cutting to get it to fit just right. Dremmel is your best option. Close your eyes and hack away, hope for the best! Looks like a nice undertail, show some pics when you get it installed.
Absolutely. We offer support on all of our products, and since we've installed almost everything known to man, we can definitely give you some tips as to how to approach getting your undertail installed. As Ace said, each bike is different. Some undertails fit bikes easily...others, such as a 'Busa, are a real treat to get fit.

Give us a call or email us and we'll see if we can't get you pointed in the right direction.

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Well, I installed it last night. Took a decent time cause I will have to cut - modify it a little bit. I used the connectors that have like a "male-female" part to them. I'd post a picture but can't seem to find one.

The only issue that I'm having is keeping the brake light in it's place. My friend looked at it and said that the little like "U" shape on the top of the brake light may have to be cut off. HotBodies only give you like three strips of double-sided stick tape to hold the brakelight in which does not secure it a whole lot.

So I'm gonna take it off, cut that off, then put like clear silicon around it then hold the brakelight in to the silicon.

Advised? Not advised? Anyone with any history of installing, please help.

Pictures will post later today.
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Wow, that sounds like a lot of work. The brake light didn't install into the hotbodies in the same fashion that it installed in the stock setup? That sucks.
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