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98 900rr question

lets start off that i have a 98 900rr with 24k on the clock...

so my problem is when i start the bike it idles at around 1.5k but jumps up and down a lot, it doesnt seem to want to stay constant even after its warmed up...

then when i turn the bike off, if i wait 5 minutes it will take a few pushes of the button before it wants to start back up...

it rides fine unless im stopped and its idling but i just dont seem to get whats going on...

can anyone offer any suggestions that me as a n00b can check myself?

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whats it do when youre on and off the throttle? And whats normal idle?
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How old are the spark plugs? Have you checked those?




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the best thing you can try first is to change the spark plugs, and maybe get the carbs cleaned/sync'd.
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whats it do when youre on and off the throttle? And whats normal idle?
it idles around 1.5k when im at a light or stop sign....and when i turn it on it will start warming up and if i throttle to maybe 3k itll sputter and shut off but thats only when i first turn it on.....

as for the spark plugs like i said im a n00b and have no clue how to even get the the plugs to check...anyone know?
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the best thing you can try first is to change the spark plugs, and maybe get the carbs cleaned/sync'd.
yea i called speedwerks cause they are right over in delaware not too far from me and they said they could clean and sync them for arond 150...is that a good price?
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yea i called speedwerks cause they are right over in delaware not too far from me and they said they could clean and sync them for arond 150...is that a good price?
That sounds about right. I paid something similar to that on my old SV.
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yea i called speedwerks cause they are right over in delaware not too far from me and they said they could clean and sync them for arond 150...is that a good price?
That sound reasonable to me. Also sounds like it desperately needs to be done. The bike shouldn't idle that high after its warm. It should be right around + or - 1000 rpms at idle. Go ahead and add $100 for new plugs and air filter while your there.

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That sound reasonable to me. Also sounds like it desperately needs to be done. The bike shouldn't idle that high after its warm. It should be right around + or - 1000 rpms at idle. Go ahead and add $100 for new plugs and air filter while your there.
i just had it run and it is idling around 1k but it sounds really rough...i cant explain it..i will try to get a video clip for sound for you guys but i have to figure it out...

when i talked to the guy at speedwerks he told me i could get some carb cleaner from pep boys or autozone and just mix it in with my next tank fill up...i think i will do that and see how it does then take it from there....also are spark plugs and air filters hard to put in myself? anyone give me advice/how to?

lastly i havent put gas in the bike yet, what grade should i use?
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ls1... speedwerks is a great shop and they won't steer you wrong. Make sure you tell them you're from TWF. Tell them Gas Man sent ya... if they steer you wrong report back to me and I'll call Brian and get on his ****!




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ls1... speedwerks is a great shop and they won't steer you wrong. Make sure you tell them you're from TWF. Tell them Gas Man sent ya... if they steer you wrong report back to me and I'll call Brian and get on his ****!
we are talking about the same speedwerks in delaware right? once i get my helmet and learn the bike i think ill take it there...its all highway so i want to learn the bike first...but as far as the plugs go are they easy to replace?
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ls1... speedwerks is a great shop and they won't steer you wrong. Make sure you tell them you're from TWF. Tell them Gas Man sent ya... if they steer you wrong report back to me and I'll call Brian and get on his ****!
we are talking about the same speedwerks in delaware right? once i get my helmet and learn the bike i think ill take it there...its all highway so i want to learn the bike first...but as far as the plugs go are they easy to replace?
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First...nice double post.
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as far as the plugs go are they easy to replace?
Plugs are in the top of the engine and the filter is under the tank. You will need to lift if not remove the tank to change the filter. Same for the plugs plus the air box may need to come out to get to the plugs. I'm not familiar enough with your bike to know exact procedure. A service manual on cd-ram or book would help you the most if you fill confidant with your ability to do this job.

The plugs will be $5 to $10 a peace and filter $30 to $100 depending on brand. The cheaper OEM filters are through aways and work fine. The K&N and like are way more $$$ but you only buy one for the life of the bike.

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Plugs are in the top of the engine and the filter is under the tank. You will need to lift if not remove the tank to change the filter. Same for the plugs plus the air box may need to come out to get to the plugs. I'm not familiar enough with your bike to know exact procedure. A service manual on cd-ram or book would help you the most if you fill confidant with your ability to do this job.

The plugs will be $5 to $10 a peace and filter $30 to $100 depending on brand. The cheaper OEM filters are through aways and work fine. The K&N and like are way more $$$ but you only buy one for the life of the bike.
hey i found these two books on ebay ones a repair manual and the other i dont know if its a service/repair manual or what or if it is just different cause its a fireblade edition...and how do i know if i have the fireblade 900rr? i just dont know which one will help me out the most?

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hey i found these two books on ebay ones a repair manual and the other i dont know if its a service/repair manual or what or if it is just different cause its a fireblade edition...and how do i know if i have the fireblade 900rr? i just dont know which one will help me out the most?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...spagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-...spagenameZWDVW
ive always had clymers manuals, not because i try to but thats the way its worked out. As for 900RR or fireblade, they are the same bike. Fireblade is used in Europe and 900RR in america. Canada... i dont know.
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ive always had clymers manuals, not because i try to but thats the way its worked out. As for 900RR or fireblade, they are the same bike. Fireblade is used in Europe and 900RR in america. Canada... i dont know.
helps a lot...thanks

and in the clymers manuals do they tell you how to do things like spark plugs and air filters etc? and are they fairly detailed?
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helps a lot...thanks

and in the clymers manuals do they tell you how to do things like spark plugs and air filters etc? and are they fairly detailed?
they all have a nearly universal section where they cover the basics. (capacities, reading plugs etc.) and have pics, illustrations, notes of caution, and good explanations. I have a haynes for my car and sometimes its not as clear as the clymers.
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they all have a nearly universal section where they cover the basics. (capacities, reading plugs etc.) and have pics, illustrations, notes of caution, and good explanations. I have a haynes for my car and sometimes its not as clear as the clymers.
thanks i ordered the clymers and it should be soon arriving so we will see how it goes...

on another note i took the bike out and i am getting fairly comfortable with the basic handlings of the bike, turning, leaning, turn signals, throttle, shifting etc the one thing i still need to work out is starting out from first gear from a dead stop...i would say 8 out of 10 times im ok but the other 2 the bike stalls because i release the throttle too much and it stalls, i just turn it right back on and its ok but i have to get it down pat....
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Parking lot practice! Or at least ride thru some subdivisions... that will help... lots of stop signs.




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