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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 07-21-2006, 01:33 PM Thread Starter
 
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05 R1 vs older GSXR1000

Hey folks, wondering if anyone has owned or ridden both R1's and Gixxer 1000's. I have an 05 R1 now, nice bike but I don't think it handles as good as my 00 Gixxer 750. Looking to go back in time to a 02 Gixxer 1000.
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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old 07-21-2006, 01:41 PM
 
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You're crazy. J/K. What don't you like about it?
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The R1 doesn't have any mid range and sits higher, especially in the rear. I've only had it out on a few real rides. Still getting used to leaning with the new hight. I'm at least 10mph slow on turns with this bike. The front end gets a little twitchy shifting at high RPM's.
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Could be yur personal pref, alot changed in 5 years in sporbikes, i think the Yam wopuld out handle a 00 750 on paper tho, 2 diff bikes, diff setup, diff engine, kinda like apples and oranges
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I'd adjust your suspesion to your dimentions and try to get use to it more.
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Could be yur personal pref, alot changed in 5 years in sporbikes, i think the Yam wopuld out handle a 00 750 on paper tho, 2 diff bikes, diff setup, diff engine, kinda like apples and oranges
I beg to differ Stomps. I think the 750 would out handle the 1k. The liter would out run it in a straight.



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for the sitting higher thing, why not just lower it a little?
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I have both an '04 R1 and an '05 GIXXER 1K. The GIXXER has more "brute" power, but they both handle very well in twisties/turns. I don't prefer one over the other...they both have advantages/disadvantages.
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I have both an '04 R1 and an '05 GIXXER 1K. The GIXXER has more "brute" power, but they both handle very well in twisties/turns. I don't prefer one over the other...they both have advantages/disadvantages.


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Yeah I think a simple lowering and adjustment to the suspension would cure these issues.

Yams both R1 & R6 while sometimes lacking in the power dept have always been well known for GREAT suspensions.

The other aspect to consider would be the weight. Anyone know the weight differences between these 2?




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I beg to differ Stomps. I think the 750 would out handle the 1k. The liter would out run it in a straight.
Maybe, i got the old issue of Motorcyclist before Gix had a litre bike, so they put that against the ZX9, R1 and CBR 929, it did good and beat some in all but top speed, im jus sayin the 05 mite outhandle the older 750 is all, i actually like smaller bikes personally, 600's are the funnest ive ever rode
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Good point Stomp. I didn't take into account the ages of the rides in question.



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IMHO and riding experience...(I've owned an 02 GSXR 600 and a 03 Yammi R1) The 600 was much better to throw around in the twisites and I've never had a complaint with the power of my R1 although I do have it jetted with a full exhaust and Power Commander so I'll have to add my in as I would go with the smaller 600/750 for twisties and track days and the liter for pure speed.
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I have both an '04 R1 and an '05 GIXXER 1K. The GIXXER has more "brute" power, but they both handle very well in twisties/turns. I don't prefer one over the other...they both have advantages/disadvantages.

The lack of mid range is noticeable in the R1. I think my 750 had more mid range. I did have to twist on it as much to get the front tire in the air.
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The lack of mid range is noticeable in the R1. I think my 750 had more mid range. I did have to twist on it as much to get the front tire in the air.
You have a point. My brother has an '06 GIXXER 1K and when we are doing high speed twisties, I have to pedal a little harder on the R1 to keep up (keep it in a lower gear)....But it's still a blast Sometimes having to work a little harder is more fun and more rewarding when you win. Same thing happened when I had a CBR 929 and he had a CBR 600 F4. He would wring the hell out of that thing and sometimes beat me....'course, he's a much better rider than I am....but it's all fun, no matter what you're on
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[QUOTE=Gas Man]

Yeah I think a simple lowering and adjustment to the suspension would cure these issues.

Yams both R1 & R6 while sometimes lacking in the power dept have always been well known for GREAT suspensions.

The other aspect to consider would be the weight. Anyone know the weight differences between these 2?[/QUO

My Gixxer 750 was the perfect settup for me. I just wanted more power (plus I crashed my 750) so I needed a new bike. My theory was if the 02 Gixxer 1000 was a good handling bike I'd get that instead of messing with the suspension and putting a bigger spocket on the R1. I assumed the handling might be about the same as the 750.
dry weight on the R1 is 379, gixxer 750, 375 (if I remeber correctly)
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If you're looking 05 vs. 02. I'd go with the 05.



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If you're looking 05 vs. 02. I'd go with the 05.

I don't know man. I test drove my friends 03 R1 last night. His has more low end than mine. Sits lower too. The 03 just needs a steering damper. However I think the 05 is better once you get up around 9/10 rmp.
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