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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 07-29-2006, 07:49 AM Thread Starter
 
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Suggested Retail versus what you really paid?

Hey. First post, etc. etc. "I'm just glad to be here. I take them one day at a time."

I've never bought a "new" motorcycle before. Never been to a dealership, just driven past them and drooled a little, whimpered a little.

I'm thinking seriously about trying to acquire an '06 GSX-R600 or a GSX-R750.

What kind of differential is there between the sticker price and what I might actually expect to pay for a new bike? Do the dealers negotiate like car salesmen? Do they sell for at or near sticker? Is the demand too high right now to expect much discount?

Or should I just wait for a 500-mile bike to show up in the classifieds?
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It's been my experience over the years that bike dealers will only negotiate on used bikes. Most have a firm price on new ones. I got both my '04 R1 and '05 GIXXER 1K "out the door" for about suggested retail...in other words, tax, tag & title were included, which means they sold it for about $1,000 below list price....and that was their advertised price. Check out Cycle Trader magazine or go online to cycletrader.com. Some dealers (the dumb ones) never vary from suggested retail. You will also see where dealers will drop their prices when new model years come out and you can get a good deal on last year's model.

Was a time when you could travel out of state to get a deal, but with gas prices being what they are, the trip would eat up any savings.

Again, surf cycletrader.com to check out prices.

Good luck in your search.
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I forget what MSRP was on my SV650, $5900? I got mine late last fall, when they were trying to get rid of the 05's for winter, and to make room for the 06's. So, my price was $5088.

Would they haggle? No. Would they give me a good deal on gear because I bought a bike? No.

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I forget what MSRP was on my SV650, $5900? I got mine late last fall, when they were trying to get rid of the 05's for winter, and to make room for the 06's. So, my price was $5088.

Would they haggle? No. Would they give me a good deal on gear because I bought a bike? No.
And that sucks!. Wouldn't you become a loyal customer at a dealership that cut you some slack on accessories/gear after buying a bike?
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first off,

second off, to your question. i think a big factor will be where you are located. when i bought my 06 ninja 250, i payed a little more than msrp due to me being in hawaii. but also, some dealers like it when you pay outright cash for it and they cut you a decent deal. or at least thats what i've seen.
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1. Take the MSF class to see if ridding is even for you.

2. consider a used bike as your first.

3. You don't need the biggest coolest bike to learn on.

4. I haven't paid full retail for any bike or gear in years but I do allot of business with my local dealers.

I did pay close to full retail on my last Gixxer but I bought a new model in high demand. Basically like R1HOOLIGAN I got it out the door for close to what the sticker was.

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1. Take the MSF class to see if ridding is even for you.
Got that covered.

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:3. You don't need the biggest coolest bike to learn on.
Understood. Also looking at an SV650 or the V-Strom 650, but still leaning towards a GSX-R600. Who knows?

I'm just turned 37 years old, athletic, 220 pounds, 33-inch inseam, not ordinarily subect to moments of wild abandon... but I haven't ridden since I was 14 and that was on dirt. Have been known to occasionally let the monster out when I owned a C5 Corvette (a '99 FRC).

After the MSF course, we shall see what can be. Available cash, financing, and insurance will all be key players.

Anticipation is killing me. Doing my research now.


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Got that covered.

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Understood. Also looking at an SV650 or the V-Strom 650, but still leaning towards a GSX-R600. Who knows?

I'm just turned 37 years old, athletic, 220 pounds, 33-inch inseam, not ordinarily subect to moments of wild abandon... but I haven't ridden since I was 14 and that was on dirt. Have been known to occasionally let the monster out when I owned a C5 Corvette (a '99 FRC).

After the MSF course, we shall see what can be. Available cash, financing, and insurance will all be key players.

Anticipation is killing me. Doing my research now.


Sounds like you have a level head. Age and weight really isn't as important as experience and comfort. We all get crazy every once in a while and let the monster out as you stated. Age does help keep things in check most the time. Good luck in your search and be safe with what ever ride you bring home. My rants and preaching is over now and Ill try to help with any info I can.

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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 08-09-2006, 11:02 AM
 
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uh msrp 8999 i paid out the door 8815 with a nitro helmet i sold for 50 bucks.
The guy that sold me the bike showed me the invoice of what they paid wich i though was 7045? so take what you want from that
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General rule of thumb is about 10% less than MSRP. So by the time you pay tax, title, freight, prep, and the misc crap you should be just under MSRP for the OTD(out the door) price, or for the UK guys I think you call it the"ready to ride" price. Might be able to do better, but you should get at least 10%.
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I bought my F4i still dry in the crate. After tax, tag, title, etc...I got out the door for about 600 under msrp...
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Thanks for the comments. Now I know what to expect.
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600 bikes are good ones to start on....I'm currently in process of getting some miles under my belt on a 04 gsxr600.

Go set on some bikes at the local shops. All the 600's look similar but they feel different. I liked the gsxr feel so it narrow'd my search in cycletrader.com.

Buy used. Spend the extra money you saved on GEAR and some pilots. That way you want feel as bad if you drop it and you will.

Set your $$$ limit and go looking in cycletrader.com and local papers. I look'd for serveral months until I found my bike and I got a steal in it!!

Once you get your bike dont ride with anyone for serveral weeks. Go slow. Get use to it. Ride early in the mornings on Sat and Sun to avoid the crowd'd roads. Cause you dont want to hit neutral at a light with a Semi roll'n toward ya....not that its happen'd to me

Just be patient...half the fun is the search for the bike and practice....to be on a bike is alota fun more than you can imagne!!
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I paid 9200 out the door for my 06 GSXR 600. Now thats in Maryland, Ive heard the prices differ depending on your location.
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post #17 of 17 (permalink) Old 08-11-2006, 05:58 AM
 
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First of all...I would suggest a used bike as a first. But if you're set on new, go to a few local dealers and see what kind of deal they will cut you. Tell them what you are looking for and what you wanna spend. See what they will do. See if they will cut you a deal on gear with the purchase. Talk to them.



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