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Mid '90s GSXR vs. Katana

Okay, this should get your blood going, but....
besides the obvious difference that a GSXR is a better and cooler bike, what are the major differences? Are the Katanas horrible or just not as good performance? Reason I ask is I'm shopping for a cheap first bike (600cc) and I've seen some Katanas fairly cheap, but don't know alot about them. Thanks for the input.
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Okay, this should get your blood going, but....
besides the obvious difference that a GSXR is a better and cooler bike, what are the major differences? Are the Katanas horrible or just not as good performance? Reason I ask is I'm shopping for a cheap first bike (600cc) and I've seen some Katanas fairly cheap, but don't know alot about them. Thanks for the input.

slow throttle response..from my experience. suspension not built as much for hard cornering but for touring... don't get me wrong i have seen som video of a katana hanging with a gsxr in the twisties... the rider was the diference there.. but think of it as the katana is the dodge neon of the sportbike world (not knocking the bike or the car) they are built as transportation and for ride comfort.. the GSXR is more like the SRT4 by dodge.. it is designed for sport and performance first and rid ecomfort last..
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slow throttle response..from my experience. suspension not built as much for hard cornering but for touring... don't get me wrong i have seen som video of a katana hanging with a gsxr in the twisties... the rider was the diference there.. but think of it as the katana is the dodge neon of the sportbike world (not knocking the bike or the car) they are built as transportation and for ride comfort.. the GSXR is more like the SRT4 by dodge.. it is designed for sport and performance first and rid ecomfort last..
pretty much
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slow throttle response..from my experience. suspension not built as much for hard cornering but for touring... don't get me wrong i have seen som video of a katana hanging with a gsxr in the twisties... the rider was the diference there.. but think of it as the katana is the dodge neon of the sportbike world (not knocking the bike or the car) they are built as transportation and for ride comfort.. the GSXR is more like the SRT4 by dodge.. it is designed for sport and performance first and rid ecomfort last..
A NEON??? I sure as hell don't want one of those.
I don't know if I want an SRT-4 either, though. You sure the GSXR isn't more of a Viper?
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Ok... how about..

Katana = Ford Escort
GSXR = Chevy Corvette




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Anyone remember the original Katana around 1980? Used the GS1100 engine with an angular fairing and tank. I thought the modern Katana used the GSX-R engine with milder cams.
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Ok... how about..

Katana = Ford Escort
GSXR = Chevy Corvette
That works Gas... the Katana even weighs about the same as an escort.
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i was going for a comparison where a vehicle had virtually the same body style but with diferent performance characteristics suspension and engine wise..

srt4 fast and good handling for the $$$

neon not very fanst and handles like any 4 door economy car..
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The Katana (even the new ones) use the old school oil cooled GSXR engine....where as the GSXR went to liquid cooling in 92 with the 600 and 93 with the 750.



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the katana is a great bike. If your buds all have gixxers you might as well go gixxer. It's got a few aftermarket parts. For the price include'n insurance it's a great way to start out.
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i was going for a comparison where a vehicle had virtually the same body style but with diferent performance characteristics suspension and engine wise.
I gotcha. I've seen some for sale where it said "GSXR (not Katana)" and I wasn't sure if they were crapily (real word?) made GSXR's or if it was just a performance thing. Thanks everyone for the feedback.
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I gotcha. I've seen some for sale where it said "GSXR (not Katana)" and I wasn't sure if they were crapily (real word?) made GSXR's or if it was just a performance thing. Thanks everyone for the feedback.
They will last....like most Jap bikes will. They are just more of a relaxed riding position compared to the race rep. GSXR. The bars are a little higher and the pegs are as high and tight. The engine isn't as potent. They are also pretty damn heavy. Probly tipping the scale around 460-470 is my guess.

For reference...my bike...92 Suzuki GSXR 750 weighs a thumping 463 DRY! Very heavy by today's standards.



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I gotcha. I've seen some for sale where it said "GSXR (not Katana)" and I wasn't sure if they were crapily (real word?) made GSXR's or if it was just a performance thing. Thanks everyone for the feedback.
That's because the Katana's are GSX's and alot of ppl get that confused with GSXR. Remeber the "R" is for racing.

I owned a 99' Katana and it was a nice LOOKING bike but I was constantly being ripped apart by my cousin on his 92 CBR 600. They're heavy and don't even think of lifting the front up. It depends on what type of riding you plan on doing as mentioned earlier.
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I had a '96 Katana 600 and hated it. It was slow, heavy, and poor handling. I bought it as a second bike one year to cruise around on. It's a decent beginner bike, but I was used to more at the time.

If you get a Kat, go with the 750. I rode a 2000 model and it felt considerably more powerful than my '96 600. I still didn't care for it though.

I will say they're comfortable to ride.
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That's because the Katana's are GSX's and alot of ppl get that confused with GSXR. Remeber the "R" is for racing.
Actually the R is worth at least 5hp... its proven...I seen it on tv!




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Actually the R is worth at least 5hp... its proven...I seen it on tv!
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get the GSXR not the GSXF. Like stated before, the Kats have an A/O cooled GSXR motor, but the chassis is far from. I think the mid 90's GSXR's are just as comfortable as the Kats, and theres a bigger aftermarket for them if you feel the need.
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I think the Katana (98 and up) is the ultimate first bike. It's cheap, reliable, easy to work on, comfortable, forgiving and fun to ride. It is a tad heavy and not the best handling bike, but perfect for the non wheelie and non knee dragger crowd. It's not the fastest, but by no means is a dog either. It's a good all around bike. I rode a '98 for two years as my first bike and it served me well as I learned. Just my .

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perfect for the non wheelie and non knee dragger crowd.
i can pull mine (05 kat 600-stock) up a good 3 feet, and slice corners better than either of my two friends 01 ZX6r, 03 ZX6r, my friends 05 R6 and ALOT of the kids that zip around here on gsxr 600's or 750's. the bike has ALOT of potential if the rider can utilize it. it does take a little more concentration, because it is so heavy, but althought it's tuned for touring, suzuki did not skimp on performance. dont sell the bike short. i was disappointed with it's "ability" as well, untill i realized it was my ability, not the bike

btw i got a 05 GSXR 600 too.

i missed a bunch of crap i wanted to cover.

it weighs a whopping 458 lbs dry, but with skill, it will wheelie. it took me 9 months to get the wheel to come up 6 inches.

second, insurance. 225/year. for an 05, thats not paid off. thats not bad.
starter bike, great starter bike. comfortable ride, and BECAUSE of the weight, you wont loop it if you accidentally pop the clutch or something, it's a good starter bike and can last you and keep you happy for some time.
my friends ninja is jetted, and has a pipe, and we run neck and neck when we go, impressive if you ask me for a kat against an R bike.

hmm i think thats it. there's like 1 or 2 more pepole on the board that i know own katanas, again, it's made more for touring, but suzuki did not cut corners on this bike (besides the fockin oil cooling which doesnt like high speed runs)

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