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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 04-27-2006, 09:40 PM Thread Starter
 
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Yet another noob with the fever

I've been reading over the forums lately and have a pretty good idea of what beginners should start off with. I will definitely be taking the msf class. I'm holding out on guying the gear in case I find a bike+gear deal. Now to my question..

I really want to start out on a gsxr600, 2001-2003 range. I'm 6'2" 210. I'm guessing that is a little bigger than the average rider. Would this be ok as my first bike? I know riding a bike is a whole new world but I pick up on things very fast, I have great balance on anything rolling or moving fast and 120 in my car feels slow. I'm pretty set on getting a 600 and I'm having trouble choosing between the cbrf4i, r6(pre 2005), and zx6r(98-2003 range).

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f4i if you have your heart set on a 600, as u said look at the noob section, its pretty much repeats itself after the first five posts



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F4i or R6.... I don't like that range of Ninja 600s.

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Welcome...Until you throw your leg over and log a few thousand miles...you don't know anything about riding and you are more likely to get killed going through the intersection in front of WalMart than going 100 down the highway...
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Thanks for the opinions and the welcome Believe me I'm the person who can't stand sucking at anything so when I get a bike you'll probably see me in desserted parking lots till 5 in the morning. Plus I don't get stupid in high pressure situations. On to more research....
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600's are not impossible to control for first time riders. They can bite you hard, but treat 'em with respect and practice wrist control. a lot of people go down while strating out and turning at the same time. On a left turn your right arm extends and you have to control your wrist from twisting back too much. you can do it, just don't be a dumbass and wear at least a helmet, jacket, gloves, and boots.
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Take MSF first and then come back and talk to us about picking out a bike. If you don't pick up fast, then you should go with something smaller. If you ace it and feel real comfortable on one, then it would be more likely for people to recommend a 600. Picking out a bike before you even ride isn't a good idea.

PS - Telling people that you are an idiot in a car going 120 is not going to make us want to recommend you getting a bigger bike if that was what you were trying to do. It will make us think you will act stupid on one and get yourself killed quicker.

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Take MSF first and then come back and talk to us about picking out a bike. If you don't pick up fast, then you should go with something smaller. If you ace it and feel real comfortable on one, then it would be more likely for people to recommend a 600. Picking out a bike before you even ride isn't a good idea.

PS - Telling people that you are an idiot in a car going 120 is not going to make us want to recommend you getting a bigger bike if that was what you were trying to do. It will make us think you will act stupid on one and get yourself killed quicker.
cmon man...dont be so harsh......why is he an "idiot" going 120 in a car?.....

I do 150+mph in a car regularly....traffic permitting of course....i guess im a huge idiot....as EVERY sportbike rider who does 150+.

dont jump on his case.....do you always obey the speed limit?


he was just trying to make the point that speed doesnt make him nervous....im guessing.
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cmon man...dont be so harsh......why is he an "idiot" going 120 in a car?.....

I do 150+mph in a car regularly....traffic permitting of course....i guess im a huge idiot....as EVERY sportbike rider who does 150+.

dont jump on his case.....do you always obey the speed limit?


he was just trying to make the point that speed doesnt make him nervous....im guessing.

Thanks gnh, you got my point. I race the ws6 at the track and open it up on open freeways occasionally. It is very stable at 120...

Anyway pretty much the point of this post was to see if someone were to start on a 600, which bike would be the most beginner friendly.
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like someone else mentioned....of the 600s....the CBR F4i is probably the most beginner friendly...


R6...gsxr600...and zx-6r....all have a bit more punch.


the f4i is still PLENTY fast...it will do 150mph and you can wheelie on it and every as well no problem.....its just a little more tame than some of the current 600s out there.
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cmon man...dont be so harsh......why is he an "idiot" going 120 in a car?.....

I do 150+mph in a car regularly....traffic permitting of course....i guess im a huge idiot....as EVERY sportbike rider who does 150+.

dont jump on his case.....do you always obey the speed limit?


he was just trying to make the point that speed doesnt make him nervous....im guessing.
Do you think speeding on a bike and speeding in a car is remotely similar? I don't think you can relate the two myself.

Plus, doing that type of speed on public roads is idiotic, there is no two ways about it. When I do that type of speed I don't consider it smart at all, I consider myself a damn fool. I am just saying that just because you can do it on 4 doesn't mean you should be attempting it on a bike as soon as you start riding.

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Do you think speeding on a bike and speeding in a car is remotely similar? I don't think you can relate the two myself.

Plus, doing that type of speed on public roads is idiotic, there is no two ways about it. When I do that type of speed I don't consider it smart at all, I consider myself a damn fool. I am just saying that just because you can do it on 4 doesn't mean you should be attempting it on a bike as soon as you start riding.
While I agree with you... but the fact that this is his first thread... calling him an Idiot is a bit... harsh... at least you said

but yeah... 150+ on anything but the track is stupid... car or bike... not that I haven't approached that stupidity myself...
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While I agree with you... but the fact that this is his first thread... calling him an Idiot is a bit... harsh... at least you said

but yeah... 150+ on anything but the track is stupid... car or bike... not that I haven't approached that stupidity myself...
Yeah I have a problem with harshness, sorry if it came off that way. Just trying to keep things safe.

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lol Vol. I'm not relating the two first of all, and your completely reading this the wrong way, IDIOT. I can tell you deal with a lot of guys that get on here and want to jump on a liter bike with 0 experience. And for my car, I'm not the idiot hauling ass everywhere and pulling mario andretti on the freeways.

After reading multiple forums I will probably end up on the sv650. They really don't look too bad and it looks like I would really learn how to ride. Plus once I'm ready to move up I could get a brand new gsxr

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lol Vol. I'm not relating the two first of all, and your completely reading this the wrong way, IDIOT. I can tell you deal with a lot of guys that get on here and want to jump on a liter bike with 0 experience. And for my car, I'm not the idiot hauling ass everywhere and pulling mario andretti on the freeways.

After reading multiple forums I will probably end up on the sv650. They really don't look too bad and it looks like I would really learn how to ride. Plus once I'm ready to move up I could get a brand new gsxr

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lol Vol. I'm not relating the two first of all, and your completely reading this the wrong way, IDIOT. I can tell you deal with a lot of guys that get on here and want to jump on a liter bike with 0 experience. And for my car, I'm not the idiot hauling ass everywhere and pulling mario andretti on the freeways.

After reading multiple forums I will probably end up on the sv650. They really don't look too bad and it looks like I would really learn how to ride. Plus once I'm ready to move up I could get a brand new gsxr

Yeah at least you understand that we do deal with alot of newbies on here that get liter bikes, don't listen to us, don't take MSF, don't wear gear, wreck their bikes in the first few months, jack up our insurance rates, and all around become a annoyance!

So please forgive some of us if we get a bit harsh with the newbies. I ensure you it won't get too bad or I'll hand out vacations.

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lol Vol. I'm not relating the two first of all, and your completely reading this the wrong way, IDIOT. I can tell you deal with a lot of guys that get on here and want to jump on a liter bike with 0 experience. And for my car, I'm not the idiot hauling ass everywhere and pulling mario andretti on the freeways.

After reading multiple forums I will probably end up on the sv650. They really don't look too bad and it looks like I would really learn how to ride. Plus once I'm ready to move up I could get a brand new gsxr

Yeah, sorry about that. We get a lot of guys that say hey I want a Busa after like 4 months of riding or hey is a liter bike good after 800 miles of riding. Sounds like you got a good head on your shoulders and I just mistook what you were trying to say. There ain't nothing wrong with a SV, it will get up to about 145 or so, I haven't done that yet. It is pretty damn quick and will more than satisfy in twisties, straight line it will get beat by the true 6s as far as top speed though.

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dont be put off by the size of the bike, hell the 250's at msf are fun as hell, even if you are just dickin around in a parkin lot



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