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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 07-15-2006, 09:08 PM Thread Starter
 
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Need to lower the SV650S

I took her out for the first time tonight. And we went pretty well, (when we were going)

yeah, I need to work on my stop signs.

The verdict is I need to lower the bike, so I have more contact with the ground. I have two options.

Lowering Links $65 to purchase or a total price of $200 installed by the dealer.

Or the Lower Seat (yes Suzuki has a lower seat for teh SV650S) I found the Part number online and my local dealer will sell it for $77.87. But I can install that myself in about 15 minutes.

One of my friends thinks I should lower the suspension and drop my whole center of gravity until I get more experience. But my question is how does droping front and rear suspension 1.5-2 inches affect handling.

For the record, the seat drops 10mm or 1.5 inches, so both are equal options.
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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old 07-15-2006, 09:22 PM
 
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if you don't want to alter the suspension and will get the same result with the seat, i'd say go with the seat. either way you are getting the same end result with desired height, and this way you have the peace of mind that there will be no changes in handling.

i lowered my 636 with a set of dogbones effectively with no ill effects felt by me mainly due to the fact that i am not quite aggressive with my riding yet. i am sure that as my confidence in my skills rise over time so will my desire to have the bike handle as intended, and then the dogbones will be removed.

so there you have it, my 2 cents. either way you will get the desired effect, it is just up to you which decision you are more comfortable with.
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My opinion I would go with the seat. Dropping the bike down by using dog bones will affect your cornering ability. If you can stay at a red light with all your toes touching, I would not bother with anything. Even if you change the seat you still will change the center of YOUR gravity. But at least you wont change the bikes center.
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post #4 of 25 (permalink) Old 07-15-2006, 10:34 PM
 
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Im thinkin , if you lowered it, its efecting the center of gravity and the factory made it work best the way it is, the seat does the same... id go seat
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post #5 of 25 (permalink) Old 07-15-2006, 11:52 PM
 
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I agree with the easiest and cheapest option, the seat.
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Do what you want Pucky. If it fits into my sked (I'm sorry but with my move its that way) I would be more than willing to come out and help ya or meet ya at my condo in the Flint area. If you come to me I have a bike jack. Of coarse that will be moving to the downriver (south of d-town) next weekend.

No reason to pay that kinda cash to do the job. It as simple as getting the weight off the bike and removing and replacing like 2-3 bolts!

The seat would be a good place to start. Get that and if its not enough then look into the dog bones. Even then I would suggest the "totally adjustable" kind instead of the 1,2,3" kind.




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Everybody pretty much voted for the seat, so we'll start there, and if I need more to be comfortable (or when I switch to the race boots (with a little less lift)) Then I can look at the dog bones (and Gas will be settled into his new digs and more available.) I hope to have an update for you guys next weekend.
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Everybody pretty much voted for the seat, so we'll start there, and if I need more to be comfortable (or when I switch to the race boots (with a little less lift)) Then I can look at the dog bones (and Gas will be settled into his new digs and more available.) I hope to have an update for you guys next weekend.
ehhhh so when you ride do you want to be comfortable, or feel like you're sitting on a concrete slab all day?

here's some more options. When I had my SV650 I had a fox racing shock, I was able to lower the coilover enough to get my feet planted flat on the ground.

2nd...on my R1 I had to lower it, and since there wasn't much of a seat to begin with...I went with the lowering link. I bought an all-thread version so I could drop or raise any amount I wanted, not the pre-drilled hole versions.
I only droped the R1 about a 1/2" or so but I do not feel any problems at all. I am about as aggresive as you can get also....still no problems.
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sounds like $. It try the cheapo first. if it works then yay. if not then it didnt hurt.
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Everybody pretty much voted for the seat, so we'll start there, and if I need more to be comfortable (or when I switch to the race boots (with a little less lift)) Then I can look at the dog bones (and Gas will be settled into his new digs and more available.) I hope to have an update for you guys next weekend.
Yeah Pucky... I'm sorry but I don't remember what area you are in. But I'll be more than willing to help ya out.




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Yeah Pucky... I'm sorry but I don't remember what area you are in. But I'll be more than willing to help ya out.

What's the term you guys use... I'm "out state" .. I'm with Hunter and GR_Z750s_rider in GR.
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Yeah that's a bit of a haul to where I'll be... I'll be like I-75 about 30 miles north of Ohio. About 6 miles off I-275.




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Yeah that's a bit of a haul to where I'll be... I'll be like I-75 about 30 miles north of Ohio. About 6 miles off I-275.
Not that bad.. In college I ran GR to Cleveland twice a month, and I liked it.

Plus I head to Canada couple times a year too. If it's somthing I need to do, I arrange to hook up with you on a weekend I'm headed that way. I have family in Rochester Hills too.
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The seat is a good starting point. The lowering link is ok if you need it. You wont have any issues with handling until you are up to knee dragging speed.

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The seat is a good starting point. The lowering link is ok if you need it. You wont have any issues with handling until you are up to knee dragging speed.
Seat for starts.



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On the 636's, the conventional wisdom is to shave your own seat. For those bikes, anyway, its actually a pretty simple process. Just adding another idea
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Not that bad.. In college I ran GR to Cleveland twice a month, and I liked it.

Plus I head to Canada couple times a year too. If it's somthing I need to do, I arrange to hook up with you on a weekend I'm headed that way. I have family in Rochester Hills too.
Yeah good! PM me and we can swap phone numbers.

Doing these types of things is what being a biker is all about. Helping out a stranger on a fix... plain and simple. We'll get er done!




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Yeah good! PM me and we can swap phone numbers.

Doing these types of things is what being a biker is all about. Helping out a stranger on a fix... plain and simple. We'll get er done!
Ask R1...I took a quick trip down to HBG to help him out! I'd do it for anyone on here for sure.



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OK, new seat installed. The specs read 10mm lower (which is about 1/2 an inch.) But as you'll see in the pics, the profile of the seat is different as well, and I gained over an inch, possibly 1.5 inches. It still seems as comfortable, but the major road test is set up for Monday (I and both of my riding buddies will be out of town, all at separate locations for the weekend).

Here are the two seats, the original on the left, the lowered assy on the right.



I did it immediately after work, so originally I was in my sandles.

Before:



After:



Then I changed into the boots I wear to ride in:

Both feet down:



And one foot on the pegs, one on the ground. Bike still verticle:



I'll let you all know how it feels after I get a few hours in the saddle on Monday. But I think this will work for me.
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