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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 08-19-2006, 02:24 AM Thread Starter
 
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Wiring Help Needed

Bought a SPY LM210 alarm system for my 600RR and I have included a wiring diagram. I'm pretty good with wiring (Electronic Warfare Technician in the Air Force) but I don't really know the ins and outs of my bikes wiring systems like I do on our jets. I need locations and some how to advice on how to get to all of these wires. Also, I don't think my bike has an ACC wire (Accessory Wire, 12V power except in off and crank) because my ignition has 3 positions: On, Off, and Lock. But maybe I do because the headlights shut off while cranking. How do I determine that or remedy that? I didn't really feel like going to town on my bike with a multimeter and snipping random wires to find out. I've included my wiring specs for my bike too. You might need to copy them and blow them up using paint or something.



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post #2 of 32 (permalink) Old 08-19-2006, 01:18 PM Thread Starter
 
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No one has any experience doing this???
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post #3 of 32 (permalink) Old 08-19-2006, 01:22 PM
 
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Some of the Mods will probably know, but they're mostly tied up with the updates right now. I don't do electrical.... Interesting things happen around me.

I'm a mechanic in the MIARNG, and once I was changing the fuel filters on a 5 ton dump, and there must have been a bare wire somewhere that the inspections missed, but I had one canister off, and as I was removing the other canister, I must have grounded something out (metal canister rubbing against the frame, touching another wire) but with out anybody in the cab, the engine started up and ran, with both canisters off, it obviously stopped when it ran out of fuel.

Yeah... I don't do electrical
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Ok... that wiring diagram is part of your bike... right?

I have wired quite a few things... and installed my alone alarm on my chop.

What wires does your alarm require? Some are very simple and you may just be complicating it...




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The top diagram came with the alarm. The bottom one is right outta my owners manual. These are the wires I need to locate and decide where the best places to splice them are... 1. Battery wire to the ignition 2. ACC wire if I have one or what to do if I don't 3. Ignition disable wire 4. Start wire 5. Turn signal wires before they seperate to front and back. I know I can find some of these but where I find them might not be the best place to splice.
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Take one by one...

Think outside of the box... to stop the bike from starting..could be anything. From the wire to your starter to the wire going to your start button.

I'll look at that more tomry... its been way too long of a day for that much thinking...




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One step at a time. First decide where to mount the box. Then run the main wires. Then continue one step at a time.

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post #8 of 32 (permalink) Old 08-20-2006, 04:07 AM Thread Starter
 
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Well, putting off the inevitable, I started removing panels trying to get to the bundles running from my ignition key and starter/engine stop. I have identified my Battery Power line, Ignition Disable, and ACC wires coming from the ignition key. I'm gonna double check with a multimeter before splicing. I'm guessing the start line is the one running from the starter buttoin and I'll attach the signal wires right up near where the user interface for the turn signals are before they split to front and back. Visualizing how all the switches will work together between bike and alarm is the challenging part. Gotta make sure what the alarm company intended is what I'm actually gonna do. What confuses me most is how the bike is supposed to remote start while in neutral and in the off position... unless the ignition key has to be in the on position in which that feature becomes even more retarded. I don't see the point of a remote start at all, but every alarm comes with that feature for some reason.

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Some of the Mods will probably know, but they're mostly tied up with the updates right now. I don't do electrical.... Interesting things happen around me.

I'm a mechanic in the MIARNG, and once I was changing the fuel filters on a 5 ton dump, and there must have been a bare wire somewhere that the inspections missed, but I had one canister off, and as I was removing the other canister, I must have grounded something out (metal canister rubbing against the frame, touching another wire) but with out anybody in the cab, the engine started up and ran, with both canisters off, it obviously stopped when it ran out of fuel.

Yeah... I don't do electrical
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Yes, but not as much as the same model two months later with a different short... during the same procedure, a cable running along the top of the engine (throttle or engine cut off maybe) got hot, melted the plastic fuel return line, and started this pretty little blue flame in the engine...

yeah, I don't do fuel filters anymore either.
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Yes, but not as much as the same model two months later with a different short... during the same procedure, a cable running along the top of the engine (throttle or engine cut off maybe) got hot, melted the plastic fuel return line, and started this pretty little blue flame in the engine...

yeah, I don't do fuel filters anymore either.


remind me never to have you help me fix my bike... LOL .. just kidding jp
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Hey, if it's not wiring, I'm good... but I don't do electrical.
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post #13 of 32 (permalink) Old 08-23-2006, 03:58 PM Thread Starter
 
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Ok, nevermind. This thread is dead to me now cause I'm sellin that alarm on ebay. I swore it had a tilt modulator in the description and this is just a shock detector An alarm that will let me know when someone has knocked over my bike... Not what I had in mind.
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If you want a good alarm you need a Scorpio. Do a search on it... its BEYOND easy to install and has everything and more than you'll ever need.

If you are trying to go real cheap.. this is the next best thing...
Gorilla Compact Cycle Alarm




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I'm going with a talon. Does that sound good? I'm also gonna get the factory plug and play wiring harness to make everything clean. Here's the link.

Talon Alarm
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post #16 of 32 (permalink) Old 08-26-2006, 11:23 AM
 
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hey have you gotten the alarm yet? keep us posted, I'm looking for one myself.
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I haven't gotten the talon alarm yet, I was waiting for gas man's opinion cause he's way smart and stuff. I do know this tho, do not buy the SPY LM210 alarm system by west coast cycles. Total crap. No tilt sensor and the shock sensor isn't adjustable, and the directions are totally vague. I sold mine a week after I bought it.
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I haven't gotten the talon alarm yet, I was waiting for gas man's opinion cause he's way smart and stuff. I do know this tho, do not buy the SPY LM210 alarm system by west coast cycles. Total crap. No tilt sensor and the shock sensor isn't adjustable, and the directions are totally vague. I sold mine a week after I bought it.
Did you at least make your money back?
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I sold it for 5 bucks cheaper cause I opened the box. Good nuff for me.
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I sold it for 5 bucks cheaper cause I opened the box. Good nuff for me.
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