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After posting a pic of the Ducati Sport Classic...


I was wondering what you guys and gals think about wire wheels on a sport bike... I think it could look freakin' sweet... As far as performance goes I know they would decrease stiffness... Plus I think it might limit tire options... Thoughts?

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i like wire wheels, as for wire wheels on a full replica sportbike... i dunno if they will hold up.
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i like wire wheels, as for wire wheels on a full replica sportbike... i dunno if they will hold up.
Howso?, please elaborate... My knee-jerk reaction would be that you would have no problems... I mean my old man's 800lb Harley has them... Or, are you talking about high speeds?
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Howso?, please elaborate... My knee-jerk reaction would be that you would have no problems... I mean my old man's 800lb Harley has them... Or, are you talking about high speeds?
yes, well wire wheels are very light, strong and are very durable in terms that they flex more to prevent damage. (think dirtbikes) And offer a comfortable ride because of it. But that flex may not be what you want in a high powered sportbike. Engineered flex is nessicary in sportbikes but having your wheels deflect at high speeds, high stress, and lean is not where you want that flex. Wire wheels on the sport classics are fine, i dont think they produce enough HP to overpower the what theyre running. And yeah they look sahweet!
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yes, well wire wheels are very light, strong and are very durable in terms that they flex more to prevent damage. (think dirtbikes) And offer a comfortable ride because of it. But that flex may not be what you want in a high powered sportbike. Engineered flex is nessicary in sportbikes but having your wheels deflect at high speeds, high stress, and lean is not where you want that flex. Wire wheels on the sport classics are fine, i dont think they produce enough HP to overpower the what theyre running. And yeah they look sahweet!
They peak at about 92HP and 67ftlbs... Obviously not up around RR, but the application I was looking for would be for a streetfighter... I'm thinking Tiller or something... torque not much greater... however wheel deflection at speeds around corners is not a good thing...

Interested in hearing more thoughts, keep 'em coming folks!
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if you do run them, let us know how they work.
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if you do run them, let us know how they work.
Looking for a winter project bike, so it will be a while... I am hoping to get more analysis before dumping a whole bunch of money into wheels...
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Looking for a winter project bike, so it will be a while... I am hoping to get more analysis before dumping a whole bunch of money into wheels...
wheels like those Ducati Corse CF spoked wheels

and a question for you onesick': Do all spoked wheels require tubes? I dont spend too much time with them and would like to know.

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All my street bikes in the 70's, up until '78 or so...came with wire spoke wheels...I got so sick of cleaning, adjusting and repairing those flippin' things...I don't ever want another set...They might be beautiful, but they are as high maintenance as a super model...
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wheels like those Ducati Corse CF spoked wheels

and a question for you onesick': Do all spoked wheels require tubes? I dont spend too much time with them and would like to know.
No... IRRC BMW makes some that don't... I have also seen, but not really read up on, places that can seal the wheels so you can go tubeless... I am torn about this... I don't know if I would want to lose the ability to get to the spoke nipples from the inside...
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All my street bikes in the 70's, up until '78 or so...came with wire spoke wheels...I got so sick of cleaning, adjusting and repairing those flippin' things...I don't ever want another set...They might be beautiful, but they are as high maintenance as a super model...
Yeah, they are not the most user friendly... From what my old man says they have come a long way... Cleaning is still the main pain...
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Nice looking rig but I'd much rather have some CF wheels than wire.



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The real problem with wire wheels is that you have to have lots of spokes to handle big torque.

Even with your v-twins like harleys/choppers. What happens if you have like a 30 spoke wheel on a 117 cubic inch v-twin is that you will start to snap spokes at the hub.

Think of spinning the center of the wheel loose from the outside rim.

The bonus to wire wheels is that they are EXTREMELY easy to straighten out if you know what to do. And they are really rigid and able to take in bumps without any damage cause they aren't cast!




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The real problem with wire wheels is that you have to have lots of spokes to handle big torque.

Even with your v-twins like harleys/choppers. What happens if you have like a 30 spoke wheel on a 117 cubic inch v-twin is that you will start to snap spokes at the hub.

Think of spinning the center of the wheel loose from the outside rim.

The bonus to wire wheels is that they are EXTREMELY easy to straighten out if you know what to do. And they are really rigid and able to take in bumps without any damage cause they aren't cast!
Ok... so 30 spokers are out... What do you think about the flex/deflection issue in the twisties that was mentioned earlier?

Yeah, I used to build and true my own wheels on my bicycles... I wouldn't say extremely easy, but doable... I never had the knack so to speak, but some of my buddies could lace up a wheel and have it straight in what seemed like 10 seconds...
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The more I see this bike the more I like it.



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Yeah lacing it takes practice.

I mean you could do a 50 spoke or somin and it would be fine. Its no different than some spokes on a car.




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