Nitrogen in the tires - TwoWheelForum: Motorcycle and Sportbike forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-27-2004, 07:06 PM Thread Starter
Administrator
 
ShanMan14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: FREE THE HOPS!
Posts: 10,104
Nitrogen in the tires

I was at the space and rocket museum this past weekend in Huntsville. One of the displays is a tire from the space shuttle. The placard stated that NASA fills the tires with nitrogen because it's more "stable".

Would there be any benefit to doing this on a bike. I have heard of it on cars, but not bikes.
ShanMan14 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-27-2004, 07:33 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,263
stability on the space shuttle is probably defined a bit different than on a bike..but I couldnt say for sure...hhhmmm
Need4Speed is offline  
post #3 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-27-2004, 10:01 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,333
Now I have heard of it being in space craft tires before due to it going into outer space where the gravity is less and it doesn't do to much to the compound of it as it does the air.(such as in out tires) I never heard of it in tires before except for in outer space. Do you have anything on it or looked it up as before I do??
GSXR1000DJ is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-27-2004, 10:04 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,263
Quote:
Originally Posted by GSXR750DJ
Now I have heard of it being in space craft tires before due to it going into outer space where the gravity is less and it doesn't do to much to the compound of it as it does the air.(such as in out tires) I never heard of it in tires before except for in outer space. Do you have anything on it or looked it up as before I do??
u might as well, shan probably wont be on till morning...

beat ya to it..LOL

here's a few links I found on it, but nothing yet on bike tires though..

http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=2399797

http://www.trailerlife.com/cforum/in...d/14397899.cfm

this too..

Is there a lot a difference in the mounting and balancing process for a race tire compared with a passenger tire?
Much of the same type of equipment is used, and the process for mounting and balancing is very similar. Because race tires are subject to much higher operating temperatures, the air to inflate them is filtered to remove moisture. Moisture inside a race tire could become steam, creating potential problems. Most teams actually replace this filtered air with nitrogen. The balancing process for a race tire requires greater precision, simply because the higher speeds on the track increase the rotation of the tires, and can magnify any imbalance. This imbalance could lead to wear and handling problems.

Last edited by Need4Speed; 10-27-2004 at 10:14 PM.
Need4Speed is offline  
post #5 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-27-2004, 10:04 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,333
Quote:
Originally Posted by Need4Speed750
u might as well, shan probably wont be on till morning...

Will do and post it for ppl to read as well if they want to. I will also look into it being in our MC tires.
GSXR1000DJ is offline  
post #6 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 05:15 AM
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,654
It is awsome. I rode a bike NOS in the tries and there is a big differnece. Its firm, tight and handles better. Kinda like fake boobs
twisty is offline  
post #7 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 07:34 AM
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,263
Quote:
Originally Posted by twisty
It is awsome. I rode a bike NOS in the tries and there is a big differnece. Its firm, tight and handles better. Kinda like fake boobs
oh boy, could this thread ever get jacked real quick.. Was that bike on the track I assume?
Need4Speed is offline  
post #8 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 07:44 AM Thread Starter
Administrator
 
ShanMan14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: FREE THE HOPS!
Posts: 10,104
Quote:
Originally Posted by twisty
It is awsome. I rode a bike NOS in the tries and there is a big differnece. Its firm, tight and handles better. Kinda like fake boobs

Hmmmm.
ShanMan14 is offline  
post #9 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 07:45 AM
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,654
Quote:
Originally Posted by Need4Speed750
oh boy, could this thread ever get jacked real quick.. Was that bike on the track I assume?

Yeah....I hate to say it but a R1
twisty is offline  
post #10 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 07:55 AM
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,263
Quote:
Originally Posted by twisty
Yeah....I hate to say it but a R1
wow twisty on an R1..i bet MP wishes he had some blackmail pics of this??!! So its really that much different performance wise? why dont more riders/bikes use them ?
Need4Speed is offline  
post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 09:26 AM
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,654
Some sanctions ban it.
twisty is offline  
post #12 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 10:15 AM
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,263
Quote:
Originally Posted by twisty
Some sanctions ban it.

well thats weird, atleast to me. hhmmmm
Need4Speed is offline  
post #13 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 11:34 AM
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,845
Nascar, Twisty's favorite sport, does it because the tire pressure won't change with Nitrogen (unless it leaks out) unlike air where temperature changes can change your pressure.
Mudpuppy is offline  
post #14 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 02:17 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,263
so my question is, if its so good, why is being banned on some tracks, and why isnt everyone using it?
Need4Speed is offline  
post #15 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 02:41 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,335
Quote:
Originally Posted by Need4Speed750
so my question is, if its so good, why is being banned on some tracks, and why isnt everyone using it?
I'm not sure why it would be banned, but it does help keep tire pressures regulated. However, it is more expensive and more difficult to obtain, which is why not everyone uses it.
Captain Morgan is offline  
post #16 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 02:52 PM
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,582
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Morgan
I'm not sure why it would be banned, but it does help keep tire pressures regulated. However, it is more expensive and more difficult to obtain, which is why not everyone uses it.

Not only this but it is more explosive then regular air.
3BoyzNaBike is offline  
post #17 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 02:55 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,263
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Morgan
I'm not sure why it would be banned, but it does help keep tire pressures regulated. However, it is more expensive and more difficult to obtain, which is why not everyone uses it.

eventually, you'd think we'll all be using this in our tires...if the space shuttle is using it, it'll eventually trickle down..
Need4Speed is offline  
post #18 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 09:40 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,845
Yeah then what? Would nitrogen at the gas station be like $20 or something? MFP. Air is fine in cars bro. We are not doing $200 in our everyday cages for 500 straight miles...
Mudpuppy is offline  
post #19 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 09:44 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,263
the hell with nitrogen, by the time that comes around, we'll be flying around in little space ships anyways...
Need4Speed is offline  
post #20 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-28-2004, 10:12 PM
V-Twin Moddin
 
Gas Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 38,916
OK OK, the official Gas Man checking in again!!!

Were not talkin about Nitrous Oxide. Nitrogen gas. Or get the liquid and you'll get more from a small container. You get liquid Nitrogen and when you open the container it expands into a gas/vapor state. This is similar to your propane on your grills.

Nitrogen is NOT flammable and can even be vented into the atmosphere without any worry from the EPA. I know, because we use Nitrogen all the time at work for many reasons.

The Nitrogen should act very similar to air as you are rolling on it. Nitrogen expends when heated, therefor causing increased pressure. Just as your standard air does in your tires. My only worry is the likelyness of it to expand when heated from the sun beating on the tire in a parking lot. Our nitrogen tanks at work do this all the time and "blow off" the excess pressure thru a pressure relief valve.

I'm not saying it's a good thing for the tires but intresting anyway.




-Chris
aka Gas Man



Was: 2002 Kaw ZX-9R
IS:


is me till the
Gas Man is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the TwoWheelForum: Motorcycle and Sportbike forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome