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Converting ferring bike into a naked bike?

I have a 1994 Yamaha Seca2 Xj600. It's a decent bike that is paid for!!!
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As you can see the front top ferring of the bike is ugly. But I've also been a fan of "naked" bikes. And what hopefully is lucky for me they made a naked version of this bike. Unfortunately it wasn't sold in the U.S. Only Europe. It's the XJ600 Diversion


I think I decided to keep the bike and tinker with it. It came factory with 60hp but I would like to get it around 80-100hp with a bit more of midrange TQ.

But my first project (Besides new rear tire and clutch) is to get that front ferring off. I hate it and hate it badly. I'd like to make it into the naked version.

But my question is this. How hard is it to do that? I'm hoping with an actual naked version of my bike it won't be too bad. Has anyone done this conversion? And what else should I know about converting it. I am mechanically inclined with a buddy who use to race sportbikes and knows how to work on them (And jumbo jets).

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Oops picture didn't take. Let's try this again..

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Oops picture didn't take. Let's try this again..
take it off, n prolly will need headlight n a diff gauge cluster
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Well I'm hoping that I can find some Diversion parts on Ebay. The only problem is the naked bike was only sold in Europe.

Which I know it's probably a waste of money but I like projects and I have considered putting an R6 motor in there for the hell of it. Providing it will fit.

Plus I'd like to chop the back seat off so the back stops about halfway or 3/4 of the way over the rear tire.

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I just picked up a VIRGIN 92 seca2 this afternoon. 600 miles on the bike! Im also looking at turning it into a streetfighter. It looks like they haven't changed much as the years went by.
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As with any bike that is generally held in decent, if not high, regard... There's probably a forum for it. On that forum there's probably a Brit guy looking for a fairing... Trade him and charge him something extra...

Or eBay your fairing and put some auto fog lights on the front of that mofo and go to town... Hell, any ol' MC light would probably work anyway...

As far as getting 100hp out of it... You need a real deep wallet to even get close... You'd probably be better off sending me $50 a week for the next year.
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As with any bike that is generally held in decent, if not high, regard... There's probably a forum for it. On that forum there's probably a Brit guy looking for a fairing... Trade him and charge him something extra...

Or eBay your fairing and put some auto fog lights on the front of that mofo and go to town... Hell, any ol' MC light would probably work anyway...

As far as getting 100hp out of it... You need a real deep wallet to even get close... You'd probably be better off sending me $50 a week for the next year.
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I did hit the Ebay.uk and looked for it. But no luck. Couldn't find any gauges or lights.

I did take the ferrings off yesterday to replace some blown bulbs in my gauges because I was going to sell the bike and get a friends. But I decided I'm going to hang on to the bike for a while and save up enough money for a 600 or 750 full ferring bike.

But becuase I can't leave well enough alone and do enjoy working on cars/bikes/trucks etc. I'm going to start converting it. I'll just buy some general gauges (Hopefully from Ebay) and build some brackets to make them fit. Then put my own headlamp in.

As for making it more powerful. From the factory they came with 60hp and about the same for TQ. I did find a video on youtube of a guy on a naked XJ600 running a track and was getting some decent speed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rda1XBh8fS0

For now I guess I need to find a European forum where people will know that bike better.

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I'd say you're a good candidate for a streetfighter design. ebay the stock stuff, and look for some aftermarket, or go nuts with your own creativity and some lights to make your own design that suits your mindset.

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i saw a seca that was streetfightered out and it was sweet, but 100 ponies is almost out of the question with the stock motor, if you want that many its alot easier to just swap engines for some 90's 600 racer



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I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to do those kind of upgrades to the engine or an engine swap without upgrading the frame, brakes and suspension too. Definitely not a cost effective project. BUT converting it to a streetfighter would be pretty easy. Just search there are a ton of sites like this one.
The stock gauges could be easily be stripped off and replaced with a Veypor or something similar.

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Just curious but what would be the difference between a "Street Fighter" and just a "Naked Bike". Is it the same thing with different terms or is there a real difference?

I did think about swapping an R6 motor into there but after a few seconds of thought that would be setting money on fire.

My buddy who is a hardcore rider and loves doing stunts said he thinks it would make a perfect stunt bike if I could get the motor a little more powerful and different gearing.

I do have free access to welders, plasma cutters, sand blasters, anglers, and just about anything you need. My friends father owned a machine shop and we'd do large industrial projects for companies such as GM were it took custom engineering.

The main problem is the bike is ungodly heavy. I think it weighs in at 450-75.

Oh well. I'm going to save up some cash then do it all at once. Appreciate the help.

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the nakid conversion is popular with the Yamaha FZ owners also, requires alot of work but if you go checkout the FZ are on the SBN forums there is some good references on where to get new lights, mirror stalks, blinker kits etc.

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My first project kinda similar to yours, older bike, and if I can go from this


To this


With just hand tools and some power tools, You should have no problems converting yours. Just think outside the box. Instead of trying to find OEM equipment for it grab something you like and make it work.
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Thats an old Yamaha xs 1100 isn't it? If so i use to have one of those for my first bike

Who needs tools i got zip ties & electrical tape
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You are correct sir , 1979 Xs1100 standard 28,000 original miles and sat for 10 year under a cover before I bought it for 50.00 bucks. probably put around 1000 into it and tools bringing it back to life.

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junky_1;418192]My first project kinda similar to yours, older bike, and if I can go from this


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With just hand tools and some power tools, You should have no problems converting yours. Just think outside the box. Instead of trying to find OEM equipment for it grab something you like and make it work.
Good Luck[/QUOTE]

Almost looks like Itgirls harley.....
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Almost looks like Itgirls harley.....

But there ain't no comparison other than that, this bad boy rolls for being 28 years old. Corners are a different story. went to skyline drive in VA and drug something (foot, kickstand ) around every corner.

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And now it looks like this



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Almost looks like Itgirls harley.....

But there ain't no comparison other than that, this bad boy rolls for being 28 years old. Corners are a different story. went to skyline drive in VA and drug something (foot, kickstand ) around every corner.
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they make the one i posted in a strap on version
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