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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 01-10-2008, 05:33 PM Thread Starter
 
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HID information

Well, people have talked a lot about an HID upgrade on here.

I found a guy's viewpoint on HID kits on another forum that I found interesting.

I'm not saying I agree with him, but it's something to think about...

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There's a lot to learn about HID's before you purchase an aftermarket kit and install it into a reflector housing. I did the same and quickly learned after further research that HID's are not made for halogen reflector housings. They require projectors or reflectors made for HID's.

If you want an alternative to HID's in the stock reflector housing you can purchase PIAA bulbs which operate at the same 55w as your stock halogen bulbs. They put out a white light and do appear to be brighter than the stock halogen bulbs. In my comparison between (stock, piaa, hid) the PIAA had the most intensity and focused light on the ground. The HID was scattered and not focused at all which caused it to lose intensity and output where needed.

Here is some information from a quick google search on the subject.


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Your're making the road more dangerous than it already is by adding a HID kit to your car. so please do HID the right way by doing a retrofit.

HID kits are illegal due to the glare that they cause. Glare is Light that is emitted in a Uncontrollable path. When light is traveling in a uncontrollable path it can hit other vehicle operators affecting there vision because of the High amount of uncontrollable light that is being Emitted from a HID kit in a standard Halogen housing. If you have ever turned a flashlight on right in front of your face while it is dark out, that is the same feeling that the other drivers on the road experience from a standard HID kit.

Here is an article explaining why HID in reflector housings is illegal: http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html
OEM is LEGAL for street use. - (Correct focus and cut off to be DOT approved.)
Aftermarket kits are ILLEGAL for street use. - (Most likely to draw attention because of glare if riding at night. Bad with the popos.)

Hope this information helps, I didn't see anyone else post this type of information in this forum.
I'm sure trip will chime in immediately, but he also uses his helmet-mounted LED lights to blind cagers, so he's a dangerous flucker anyways
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Good Post!! I'll give the PIAA a try!

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I actually HAVE the Piaa's in both my Truck and my bike... while they ARE better than the normal halogen lights... the do not compare to HID...

I've seen the beam pattern for both my truck and my bike with HID... they are SHARPER and much brighter than mine are with the PIAA's. I didn't notice any new area's that were ilmuninated with the HID's that weren't with the PIAA's...

all depends on the housing they'er going in. I'd imagine.
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Yes, HIDs are illegal because they are not DOT approved. The only HIDs that are DOT approved usually come stock in the vehicle or is an OEM addition and not aftermarket. Do I care about it being illegal? F*ck no, I am more visible. My low beam is purposely angled down to not be so bright as to blind people. It is still much brighter than stock lights. Cops here don't care or look for it, I have asked them. Just stay away from the odd color ones, like purple.

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Yes, HIDs are illegal because they are not DOT approved. The only HIDs that are DOT approved usually come stock in the vehicle or is an OEM addition and not aftermarket. Do I care about it being illegal? F*ck no, I am more visible. My low beam is purposely angled down to not be so bright as to blind people. It is still much brighter than stock lights. Cops here don't care or look for it, I have asked them. Just stay away from the odd color ones, like purple.
do they look for flashlights on helmets?
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do they look for flashlights on helmets?
LOL, when I do that there are no cops within 30 miles of me.

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LOL, when I do that there are no cops within 30 miles of me.
you should get one blue and one red... ya know the ones that flash on and off... hum... that would be funny as hell... though hard to ride in a blue/red strobe light effect
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you should get one blue and one red... ya know the ones that flash on and off... hum... that would be funny as hell... though hard to ride in a blue/red strobe light effect
the flashlights have a flashing feature, i could put red/blue saran wrap on them.

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the flashlights have a flashing feature, i could put red/blue saran wrap on them.
BOOM... there ya go!
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I actually HAVE the Piaa's in both my Truck and my bike... while they ARE better than the normal halogen lights... the do not compare to HID...
And those fluckers ARE bright!!!

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they make the one i posted in a strap on version
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And those fluckers ARE bright!!!
It pretty much looks like daytime wherever I put my HIDs.

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It pretty much looks like daytime wherever I put my HIDs.
Never seen your HID's, but I've been on Ebbs ZZR w/the PIAA's at night... after riding my SV w/stock lights, it's almost like daytime!

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they make the one i posted in a strap on version
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