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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-02-2004, 10:54 PM Thread Starter
 
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Frame Sliders Bend Frames??

Has anyone heard anything about frame sliders bending a frame in a spill?

I stopped in a shop today looking for some sliders and the guy told me that they may contribute to a bent frame in a spill. Said I would be better off sacrificing my plastic to the asphalt gods...

Personally, I don't like either idea, but I would much rather have to replace plastic than have a bent frame.

Then I started thinking about it and can't remember seeing sliders on any pro bikes (I always figured that was because some sponsor is paying the bills)..

Anyone know anything more about this?
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-02-2004, 11:44 PM
 
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Cant say that I know from experience..but I'm with the dealer on this one..replacing some plastic is a hell of alot cheaper than a frame. :bike:
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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-03-2004, 07:18 AM
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Sounds nuts to me! I've never heard of this, I'd much rather run with frame sliders than sacrifice the plastic. Granted, the frame isn't supposed to take impacts at the locations where FS would be mounted, but it shouldn't bend the frame.
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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-03-2004, 12:54 PM
 
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I'd definately get a second opinion..even a third...
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Properly designed, installed, and crashed-on frame sliders will not bend the frame. The thing to consider is the fact that frame sliders are designed to save the bodywork and frame in a specific kind of crash...a lowside. All they do is offer an alernative sliding surface for the crashing bike. In a crash where the bike does anything more than slide on its side, there is the possibility, even liklihood, that other damage will occur. That includes bending the frame. However, a properly designed slider will include a bolt that is soft enough to bend (or break) with enough side-loading so it doesn't transfer all of the crash energy to the frame.

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post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-04-2004, 07:19 AM
 
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those things are for girls!!!!!! haha just kidding

i dont like the way they look sticking out of the body
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WOW, that sounds like a line of you know what. :shock: I have went down with frame sliders and have plenty of buddies that race and been down tons of times. Have FS' on is the only way to go. Take it from my personal expierence. Stay away from Lockhart Phillips carbon inlay frame sliders.

You want a set of FS made of "derlin" (a type of material). They should also come with a set of titanium or grade 10 bolts. If they come with a grade 6 or cheaper, replace the bolts. If you don't then they bend...I attached a pic of my carbon inlays after a HARD lay down...you can see they bent bad. Helped a bit but not like they were suppose to.



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Other than the small crack, looks like it saved you from replacing anything.
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those things are for girls!!!!!! haha just kidding

i dont like the way they look sticking out of the body
maybe putting some that would match the colors of the bike more ?
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Thanks for the advice. Especially the note about the carbon inlay jobs! I thought those looked pretty cool and was thinking about getting them.

Frame Sliders It Is! Plastic Be Saved!
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Thanks for the advice. Especially the note about the carbon inlay jobs! I thought those looked pretty cool and was thinking about getting them.

Frame Sliders It Is! Plastic Be Saved!
Yeah, no problem. While my carbon inlays did help, they didn't with stand the lay down the way they should have. Go with nothing but a poly or derlin...




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