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post #1 of 53 (permalink) Old 06-01-2005, 07:21 PM Thread Starter
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Can you ride your bike with no teeth on your rear sprocket?

Can you ride your bike with no teeth on your rear sprocket? Read below to find out!

Ok I've always heard that the Vortex sprockets suck but I never had any real reason to believe it... well here's a GREAT reason!!

Monday after getting the bikes out for a day at the GAP, Cale and I found a problem with my rear sprocket...

It was missing alot of the teeth!!!!

So we counted about 22 out of 43 teeth that were still there. The rest of them had been snapped off 30-40% of the top of the tooth!

I decided to ride on it anyway... I did really well, and improved my riding, corning, and speed at least 2 fold! But that's another thread!

On the way out of the GAP after about 8hrs of slayin the twisties, I was chasing Rev and felt the rear slip! So I started to take it easy...and evenetaually got back to the hotel. Where we found something that blew our minds!

The 9R's rear sprocket was now toothless. Yep, with the speed and power throughout the day, I had finished off the sprocket!

I called the wife and had her overnight my extra, that I left at home. It only cost me about $30 and would arrive Wed morning! But would I ride Tuesday...

My shipped sprocket:


I did and kept it cool...she made it all the way through the GAP, the Skyway, and all the way down 28 to Franklin, NC.... then all the way back! The 9R did good!

But let's look at the pics!

Tear it down...



The old Vortex crap



The shipped sprocket and the old chain:


Yeah that sucked! So I got the spare sprocket in and on the bike. And we found that during this process the master link on my chain was binding. Not sure which came first, the sprocket problem caused the link problem or vise versa...

Got a new link and went to a dealer to have it installed. *Mental note, bring your chain break tool with you when going on a bike trip!* We broke the old chain and found the inners are junked and the new link won't even slider thru!

So a new RK X-ring chain was purchased and installed. Would have got a DiD but they didn't have one! It's just normal gray instead of the nice gold color of the old one, but it will work!



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post #2 of 53 (permalink) Old 06-01-2005, 07:28 PM
 
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Wow... I'd make certain that your wheel is aligned. How old ws that sprocket? If it wasn't pretty old, SOMETHING's not right...
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Well the wheel was aligned but as I said... not sure what came first.

The mechanic and I went over it pretty good at the shop and he believes the dealership that put it on may have put the link on too tight. And that it eventually started to bind and caused the rear sprocket to get chewed up.

It was crazy though! The dealer mechanic was very helpfull and very knowledgeable. We got the new chain on there and it feels great. Took it for a small spin in between the rain showers...




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I have used Vortex sprockets off and on for years.
The only problem is they are made with aluminum and wears very quickly if you do a lot of wheelies and hard ridding in general.
I would bet the chain went first or you just let the sprocket wear for to long and it gave up.

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I WAS gonna get Vortex sprockets. Not anymore.
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I WAS gonna get Vortex sprockets. Not anymore.
It's an aluminum sprocket ... it's not going to last as long as a steel one.

And Chris ... you're very lucky you weren't seriously injured riding on that sprocket. The chain can jump off then wrap around the wheel hub, locking up the rear and throwing you from the bike.

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It's an aluminum sprocket ... it's not going to last as long as a steel one.

And Chris ... you're very lucky you weren't seriously injured riding on that sprocket. The chain can jump off then wrap around the wheel hub, locking up the rear and throwing you from the bike.

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Hard to believe you would make such a squidly move Gasman, your usually the first to point out other's mistakes. At least nobody got hurt.
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Way togo gas Man.
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Aluminum sprockets on the street?
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Hard to believe you would make such a squidly move Gasman, your usually the first to point out other's mistakes. At least nobody got hurt.
aint that the truth
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Thats incredible! You should keep that.
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Make a clock out of it.
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Yeah... believe me, all 9 of us looked at the sprocket very closely and decided that it would be ok as long as I babied it around!

Never got it over like 6k RPM on that sprocket. Once I got the new chain on the other sprocket I rapped the R's all the way around... at least a few times in a row. Then today I did it all the time... DAMN I love riding the GAP in nuttin but first gear with the occasional up shift to 2nd for small blips!

DL, that is exactly what I want to make sure everybody knows. These Vortex sprockets not being case harden and alum BLOW!




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Gas man you have alot of chain related problems...You must ride the he** out of it....
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This is the first problem I've had but yes, I do ride the he77 out of my chain and everything else on the bike. The bike is designed to go fast and I push it on a regular basis!




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This is the first problem I've had but yes, I do ride the he77 out of my chain and everything else on the bike. The bike is designed to go fast and I push it on a regular basis!
...literally with that sprocket.


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hey now i just got a vortex sprocket, yeah they wear but the price is low enough to buy them and keep replacing.

but there is a sprocket out there and it will be my next purchase, it has an aluminum inner and the teeth are steel, its like a 2 piece sprocket. and it comes in gold inner with black teeth part. looks real nice,
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GasMan, as steve said...check your wheel alignment, otherwise you're gonna wind up in the same boat again. I'm glad you weren't hurt, but next time, don't listen to the other 8 people who told you to ride with it like that. You're the one riding the bike, and even babying it, it was not a good idea!

Glad you're ok, though!

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This is the first problem I've had but yes, I do ride the he77 out of my chain and everything else on the bike. The bike is designed to go fast and I push it on a regular basis!

Are you sure?~

Yes believe me....I made the sorry mistake, many moons ago, and let a guy install a replacement chain on my bike and he didn't install the replaceble link correctly....

Well, it came apart on the highway at about 80mph and about 10K RPM engine speed!!! Needless to say it F'ed up my bike bad!!!
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