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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-19-2007, 02:23 PM Thread Starter
 
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new busa tries to pwn kawi's zx-14 BUT FAILS

wow.

on the kawi-Current NON-STOCK aftermarket Bolt-on additions include

Brock’s Performance (by Hindle) StreetSmart Exhaust System.
Brock’s modified 2004 ZX-10 Power Commander PC3usb with matching map.
Front forks lowered 1.25 inches in the stock clamps.
Brock’s Complete Radial Caliper Front End Lowering Kit.
Adjustable rear lowering links.
Brock’s Performance (by Spiegler, USA) brake line kit.
EK530DR2 non o-ring chain. (Stock front and rear sprockets--still!)
VP MR9 race fuel.
Alisyn Pro Drive 21 Oil <<0W.
(<<0W means less than zero weight for race track use ONLY!)
World Wide Bearings ceramic wheel bearing kit.

best time like [email protected]


on the new busa-Current NON-STOCK aftermarket Bolt-on additions include
1. Mirrors were removed
2. Ultra-Mod clutch kit was installed
3. Front end lowering kit was installed, and the front end was strapped
4. Rear lowering links were added (at the lowest position)
5. Alisyn <<0 fully synthetic motor oil was added
6. High Octane pump gas was put in the tank at Road America


best time like that- [email protected]


i think itll hit the eights with these added to the busa

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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-19-2007, 02:59 PM
 
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...round and round and round we go... Looks like it comes down to rider. Most "regular" people aren't going to get either bike into the low 9's anyway. My R1 is listed as 9.7's @140 + mph in some mags but I bet most couldn't achieve that.

The times show the Kaw was quicker ?
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...round and round and round we go... Looks like it comes down to rider. Most "regular" people aren't going to get either bike into the low 9's anyway. My R1 is listed as 9.7's @140 + mph in some mags but I bet most couldn't achieve that.

The times show the Kaw was quicker ?
Yeah it showed the Kawi being faster by a couple tenths but it was also more extensively modded than the new busa
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Yeah it showed the Kawi being faster by a couple tenths but it was also more extensively modded than the new busa
So apples to oranges...guess I don't see the point then.

It should be stock against stock with same rider that isn't funded by either manufacturer.

The Busa may be faster...I'm not arguing/defending either since I don't own either...I just laugh at some of these test when all is not equal to begin with.
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true, its always rider rider rider, but when the new kawi came out, average or not, riders were goin faster on the kawi than the busa stock or with compareable bolt on mods. the new busa appears to be able to reclaim its throne-ugly tail or not lol


these are real numbers-usually the mags use corrected numbers in that list they have.
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So apples to oranges...guess I don't see the point then.

It should be stock against stock with same rider that isn't funded by either manufacturer.

The Busa may be faster...I'm not arguing/defending either since I don't own either...I just laugh at some of these test when all is not equal to begin with.
stock against stock is pointless imo-ive never seen a stock bike at the drag strip. bone stock-some liter bikes can hang with 14's and busas if they got a good rider on them.

same guy doing this did the same to the kawi when it came out, no major manufacturer support. he just squeezes all the hp he can get out of while still being streetable. the riders were about the same weight, with compareable skill.

the point of my post was just like when the kawi came out, you didnt have to do as much to it to be faster than the busa, the new busa is one upping the kawi in the same way. maybe i should of waited til they got a pipe, and a pc, and the other stuff, but i didnt, cuz 9.30's on a stock(lowered bike) bike is insane. stock tires too
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I'm confused... the posts stats clearly show the 14 still beating the busa

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I'm confused... the posts stats clearly show the 14 still beating the busa

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read the mod list again. major differences, but only 2tenths dif at the track.

and i changed the title to "pwning in process" but it didnt show the change.
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Tell me how it owned the 14 again. Looks like the Kawi got better times.
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The only diff, is PCIII and a exhaust. Thats proly good for two tenths. Id say they prolly neck in neck. This should make for some good competition though!
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The only diff, is PCIII and a exhaust. Thats proly good for two tenths. Id say they prolly neck in neck. This should make for some good competition though!
Exactly...

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The only diff, is PCIII and a exhaust. Thats proly good for two tenths. Id say they prolly neck in neck. This should make for some good competition though!

the busa is missing a mapped pciii, full exhaust, non o-ring chain, and ceramic bearings. thats easily more than two tenths.

but whatever, next time ill wait til EVERYTHING is exactly equal, since no1 has any forsight these days
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the busa is missing a mapped pciii, full exhaust, non o-ring chain, and ceramic bearings. thats easily more than two tenths.

but whatever, next time ill wait til EVERYTHING is exactly equal, since no1 has any forsight these days
You can't say it pwns a 14 when the times are better on the 14. You could say it could potentialy pwn a 14 with similar mods.
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You can't say it pwns a 14 when the times are better on the 14. You could say it could potentialy pwn a 14 with similar mods.
Someone said "stock to stock doesn't matter" which I don't understand. Stock to stock with the same rider,on the same day,on the same track,is the only way to tell which BIKE is better. When you start moding,you determine which modification is better. Some exhausts work better on some bikes,for example. So even if you put the same mods on both bikes,it really doesn't tell you anything except which bike reacts best to certain companies parts. IMHO anyway.

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That how I feel tigger. Im not being bias I think both bikes are BAMF's! I think this is cool as well. I think this is simply going to be a great competion between two great manufactures. And Stock to stock is the way to go. Mods are unlimited and have completely diff effects on every bike. Im excited and ready!! Drop this gentelmens agreement BS and lets see what these puppies will do!!
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It should also be noted that the 08 ZX14 has had some updating as well, and that should help keep the 14 on top. That was a 06-07 model in this comparison. So the busa didnt have comparable mods and the 14 was the old model, sounds like a worthless test to me.
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i mentioned before that i tryed to change it to "pwning in process"

i said stock to stock is useless. which bike is better is also useless. this thread, being in the drag racing section, would be :which bike is better for drag racing without compromising street manners at all. the same mods are the way to go because even tho its the same-pc, pipe, etc etc, each one is specifically catered to each bike. they wont have the same map, and they wont have the same pipe-just the same company. all the mods are bolt on-therefore not compromising streetability. the engine is left untouched, the bike isnt stretched, no n2o, no turbo, no electric/air/quick shifter. the same guy that did the 14 is doing the busa. and it should be noted that this isnt a comparison test. he did the 14 when it first came out, maxed out its dual role drag/street potential. now hes doing the new busa, to max out its same potential.

i only mentioned the kawi to show how close the busa was to it, and the kawi was way further along in the mod process than the busa.

mite as well delete this thread, i think the point was missed

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The only diff, is PCIII and a exhaust. Thats proly good for two tenths. Id say they prolly neck in neck. This should make for some good competition though!
Agree 100 % and glad to see title changed.
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since the thread wasnt deleted, i went digging, and found the closest thing i could for the kawi.

lowered, stock exhaust, pc mapped for stock exhaust- [email protected]

happy?

and yea, same guy doing all this. same exact kawi as the one i posted earlier, just before he finished the pipe, new pc map for the pipe, and the other stuff posted above.

im not biased toward either bike, but my point was misconstrued, and the title of this thread was changed to add to that effect, so i felt compelled to explain myself. so, like i said, (also the origial title that i wanted) "new busa pwning of zx-14 IS in process"

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Yea but different days...different temps and conditions...what was the track temp each day...what kind of mood was the rider in on each day...did he have a lot on his mind the day he rode the Kaw ?



Just messin'...I'm sure the bike is kickazz...
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