R1 or R6. Which one would you buy and why? - TwoWheelForum: Motorcycle and Sportbike forums
View Poll Results: R6 or R1 or other brand/make?
R6 20 30.77%
R1 26 40.00%
ZX-6R 5 7.69%
GSX600 2 3.08%
GSX1000 7 10.77%
ZX-10R 5 7.69%
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post #1 of 45 (permalink) Old 07-07-2004, 06:56 PM Thread Starter
 
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R1 or R6. Which one would you buy and why?

Hi folks,
I have not decided yet on which one I'd like to get. I do have experience riding some fast bikes, VMAX, Honda 750S Night Hawk and 600's. The VMAX was very fast but too heavy for me. I plan to use the bike for commuting one hour, weekend rides and some track days. I have not ridden any of the latest sports bikes available so I don't know how something like the R6 would compare to the R1. I've read plenty of articles on both ansd other bikes.
I have sat on a R6 and just feel in love with how my body jus molded to it. I felt very good on it. I do not plan to ride either leaned over skipping my knees over the payment. Maybe on track days but even then I'd use some caution to not ride at the extremes. Let me know what your experience has been or your thoughts and reasons why one would be better than the other for my use. Also would you recommend some other make/model?

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After you figure out your skill level, time riding bikes, body size compared to bike size (a four foot jockey on a ZX12R is not going to work) and decide if a litre bike or 600 is the better choice, pick a color and go with it. Honestly, all of the 600 are very close in performance and so are the range of litre bikes. Find your favorite color and the one that had ergonimics that please you.
Your next consideration is insurance. If this is a new bike with a lien and you are under 30 years old, you may get a rude awakening with your yearly insurance cost. FYI - 35+ Male, married, clean driving record, house and vehicles on the same plan is going to get a price quote of between $1100 to $2100 per year for a new Hayabusa. This, of course, is if your insurance company knows motorcycles and has an accurate rate chart per dispalcement.
A co-worker was paying $440 a year for his 2 year old RC51 and was rubbing it in to everyone. 6 months later he got a letter that read "Welcome to your new $880 per year policy" the bike policies had been updated and it was reclassified as a superbike-we-are-gonna-hose-you-now motorcycle.

Anyway, hope that didn't bring you down any. But consider the entire cost of the bike per year and you may end up with a very fun 600cc bike versus a ballistic litre bike with hellacious insurance.

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Anyway, hope that didn't bring you down any. But consider the entire cost of the bike per year and you may end up with a very fun 600cc bike versus a ballistic litre bike with hellacious insurance.

That's a great point. I think a lot of riders forget about this when buying a bike.
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post #4 of 45 (permalink) Old 07-08-2004, 11:48 AM
 
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From what I've seen a lot of people on litre bikes don't have any business on them. . bald spots on the middle of their tires, and the sides are clean. A 600 is more than enough for the street. . granted, I still want an RC51. lol
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Yeah, i hear ya about the insurance rates. I'm married, kids, clean driving record. I know I can handle a 600 or 1000cc bike. Speed and handling is nothing new to me on bikes or cars. I also agree a 600 is more than enough for the street for most.
I think I would enjoy the 600 on the street alot more than a 1000cc bike.
Seems like a 1000cc is kinda like having this missle between your legs and no where to really stretch out it's legs. The 600 would be more fun and easier to drive due to it being more flickable on the roads and parking lots. But the 1000cc is like having a modified Viper or modified Corvette. Do you really need all that power on the streets? If you plan on doing some tracks days I'd say yes. It's all a game of give and take. Again I'm just going by what have experience in the past. I have not ridden any new sports bikes. They are alot lighter, even the 1000cc bikes way nothing compared to what I've ridden.

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Hey Steve, I can't really recommend either but would think i'd be easier to get into trouble on the R1. That said , I'd still probably still go with the R1.

I hope to be out riding again soon so when you get your bike give us a holler and we'll run up to Skyline and play on Rt-211...

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Yeah RT211 is awesome in the vette. Must be really cool on a bike.
Well, I'm working some ovetime until October so the bike purchase may come sooner than expected. If I get the bike this year we should hook up and cruise for sure.
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r1 all the way
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You can make the argument that the majority of todays street riders will never use an R1, 1000RR,Busa, Gixxer1000, etc, to their full-potential..so why buy them...just a waste of insurance premiums, payments can be high, routine maintenance, the potential to get in over your head etc....and yeah that may all be well and good...but riding bikes is about getting what you want, AND what you can comfortably handle. To many people, as stated earlier, have absolutely no business pickin up liter bike..but they do it because their friends have one, or they want to be the first in their group to have one of these beasts. Sportbikes are motorcycles just like any other type of ride, they are made to be enjoyed and loved by their owners..but, sportbikes are also made for all out, balls to the wall speed and performance; which appeals to all of us, otherwise we wouldnt have forums dedicated to them, websites, motorcycle clubs and organizations created to support them.

My thinking is, if you are comfortable & confident that you can handle a bigger bike, and it makes you happy, then go for it...you only live once ( and try to make it last as long as you can )..but your content, and get that "just right" feeling on the R6..by all means, go for it.

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[QUOTE=Need4Speed750]You can make the argument that the majority of todays street riders will never use an R1, 1000RR,Busa, Gixxer1000, etc, to their full-potential..QUOTE]
my r1 seen 185 on the speedo so i used all it had. of course i was probably only goin 175 with speedo error :ack: i had friends who always wanted to run weither on the highway or backroads. so i needed a fast bike which could handle. i didnt want come in last all the time. :hi:
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I am going with the GSXR1000.
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Get a GSXR, everyone is doing it......lol
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Get a GSXR, everyone is doing it......lol
He is right, GSXR's are great machines. But I say got with a 10R. I talked with a guy that owned a 10R and his buddy that owned a 1000RR and they said the 10R ROCKS!!




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Yeah well tell him to come see me and I'll show him what a SUZUKI looks like in front of him.
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First take your GSXR and Kaw comments over to the right forum - this happens to be Yamaha and the question was R1 or R6 not which manufacturer.

Second I own an R6 and it is a great bike, I am just ready for the more that the R1 has to offer and every R1 owner I talk to absolutely loves their bike.
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First take your GSXR and Kaw comments over to the right forum - this happens to be Yamaha and the question was R1 or R6 not which manufacturer.

Second I own an R6 and it is a great bike, I am just ready for the more that the R1 has to offer and every R1 owner I talk to absolutely loves their bike.
You're right! Sorry!!

And yes the R6 is an awesome bike. One of the best 600 cc bikes. But then again about all the 600's are pretty awesome!!




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Right on Chris.....the 600's nowadays, are some of the most of the popular bikes in the country..they've got great speed,torque, and all around kick a$$ rides, for the size of the engine..and btw, prices going up and up every year on these bad boys. You cant go wrong with any 600..It just really all depends on how much of a bike you think you can SAFELY handle, a 600 or a 1000. :bike:
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Oh, yeah....for sure. Not to talk about the wrong brand, but the new 636 from a brand I won't mention (green)....is setting all time, track time records. Not just in the 600cc class but in all classes. I don't remember what track but I'm sure TWISTY would know! But all the bikes are just getting insanely fast. Even in comparison to the insane 1000's from even just 2 years ago....

Watch out, we don't need another thread "can't seem to keep the front wheel down"....




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Watch out, we don't need another thread "can't seem to keep the front wheel down"....
speaking of neverendingproject...wonder where he's been, havent seen him online in awhile..
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