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1098 comeback?

Its nice to see that the Duc is coming back into the world of superbikes and competing again with the japs 1000's, the Duc was known for its torque but no power and the hard a$$ clutch it had.
The Ducati manufacter suffered great loses in the past years and almost closed down but the government refused for it to close and kind of saved it a few times.
The Bike mags all over the world stopped comparing the duc with the rest of the liter bikes and just named it the king of handling.
But now with the release of the 1098, these things look as if a major change will happen..we'll wait and see... just my
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Take from someone who has the new 1098s...

I've ridden the Jap bikes... R1's, GSXR 1000's, CBR 1000RR's, and even Augusta F4's on the track. Comapred with the 1098, only the F4 can match it in terms of pure performance, as well as soul and the feel you get of being connected to the road and bike. While the Jap bikes perform well, they just don't 'feel' as good as the MV or the Ducati.

Duc's are definately back in the game, and strong.
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Take from someone who has the new 1098s...

I've ridden the Jap bikes... R1's, GSXR 1000's, CBR 1000RR's, and even Augusta F4's on the track. Comapred with the 1098, only the F4 can match it in terms of pure performance, as well as soul and the feel you get of being connected to the road and bike. While the Jap bikes perform well, they just don't 'feel' as good as the MV or the Ducati.

Duc's are definately back in the game, and strong.
It seems that way, i spoke to the dealer here and he said all he could get was 5 pieces (1098) and two are already sold, i didnt get to ask him for how much though.

FGW, would you mind sharing some more info on the bike?
How's the clutch? seating position? whats the response on the bike compared to? In your opinion, what class would you put this bike with?
Is it still torque mostly?
Anything you can share, i would appreciate.. good points as well as bad
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I got to see and hear the new 1098 over the weekend. It's got a deep V-twin sound. Nice piece of machinery.
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from the clips of it I've seen, and what I can hear, it sounds like a truly beautiful piece of Italian design, fit for a god. Ducati is pure and simple beauty with a motor.
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from the clips of it I've seen, and what I can hear, it sounds like a truly beautiful piece of Italian design, fit for a god. Ducati is pure and simple beauty with a motor.
+ a big price tag.
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I got to see and hear the new 1098 over the weekend. It's got a deep V-twin sound. Nice piece of machinery.
Where? I want to see it. 1098 = pure sex.



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Where? I want to see it. 1098 = pure sex.
It was at Transport Yamaha/Ducati/Honda in Lexington, KY.
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It was at Transport Yamaha/Ducati/Honda in Lexington, KY.
Damn you. I was hoping it was local. I THINK I saw one go by my house a couple weeks ago...it was down on 11/15 so I couldn't see real well.



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Damn you. I was hoping it was local. I THINK I saw one go by my house a couple weeks ago...it was down on 11/15 so I couldn't see real well.
Don't we have any Ducati dealers around here?
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Don't we have any Ducati dealers around here?
Koup's is the only one I know of. And Kissell's in State College. I dont think Ray Wilt is a Duc dealer.



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Koup's is the only one I know of. And Kissell's in State College. I dont think Ray Wilt is a Duc dealer.
Do they not have any in stock or what?

I'm not a big fan of Koups, but they are right behind my apt here.
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Do they not have any in stock or what?

I'm not a big fan of Koups, but they are right behind my apt here.
I'm not sure. I haven't been over there since about October. They are pricey...but I usually go to them for Zuk parts if I need them.



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It seems that way, i spoke to the dealer here and he said all he could get was 5 pieces (1098) and two are already sold, i didnt get to ask him for how much though.

FGW, would you mind sharing some more info on the bike?
How's the clutch? seating position? whats the response on the bike compared to? In your opinion, what class would you put this bike with?
Is it still torque mostly?
Anything you can share, i would appreciate.. good points as well as bad
Sorry for the delayed response, this is the first time I've been on in the last 2 or 3 days.

The cluth is very smooth and strong, but with that crisp feel you would expect from a full bread racing bike. The seating position is very agressive. The seat itself is rather high, and the footpegs are in a position that you're in a pretty agressive forward lean while riding the bike. Decently noticible compared to a GSXR1000RR. The bike is not very 'long trip' friendly for comfort, but that depends on what your own personal stamina/strength is. I could probably do a good 400'ish mile trip on it without too much wear and tear on myself.

Now when you say response of the bike, what are you reguarding it to? The throttle control? Steering? Traction feeling? I'll just go through the list.
The bike is a bloody rocket. It will easily keep up with most anything else on the market (other than a D16RR and the like). Mind you I haven't been able to fully wind it out yet because it's still relatively new, nor have I had mine on the track as of yet. It does take some getting use to of the throttle though. It's very finely tuned and sensitive. The steering on it is the same amazing results we expect from Ducati.. and even more so. The bike is amazingly nimble, and it feels like it weighs 150lbs less than it actually does.
The bike in terms of performance, in my opinion, is more or less a 999s but improved in every way to some extent.

It's still a torque monster, yes. But the fact that the bike is putting out 160hp at the crank is now very noticible. It doesn't quite feel like an R1 (if you have any clue what I mean), but the feelings are deceptive.

Sorry if this is hard to read and doesn't make sense. I was out at the track all day today and I'm completely and utterly exhausted. Let me know if you have any other questions, I'm more than happy to divulge what knowledge I can.
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Sorry for the delayed response, this is the first time I've been on in the last 2 or 3 days.

The cluth is very smooth and strong, but with that crisp feel you would expect from a full bread racing bike. The seating position is very agressive. The seat itself is rather high, and the footpegs are in a position that you're in a pretty agressive forward lean while riding the bike. Decently noticible compared to a GSXR1000RR. The bike is not very 'long trip' friendly for comfort, but that depends on what your own personal stamina/strength is. I could probably do a good 400'ish mile trip on it without too much wear and tear on myself.

Now when you say response of the bike, what are you reguarding it to? The throttle control? Steering? Traction feeling? I'll just go through the list.
The bike is a bloody rocket. It will easily keep up with most anything else on the market (other than a D16RR and the like). Mind you I haven't been able to fully wind it out yet because it's still relatively new, nor have I had mine on the track as of yet. It does take some getting use to of the throttle though. It's very finely tuned and sensitive. The steering on it is the same amazing results we expect from Ducati.. and even more so. The bike is amazingly nimble, and it feels like it weighs 150lbs less than it actually does.
The bike in terms of performance, in my opinion, is more or less a 999s but improved in every way to some extent.

It's still a torque monster, yes. But the fact that the bike is putting out 160hp at the crank is now very noticible. It doesn't quite feel like an R1 (if you have any clue what I mean), but the feelings are deceptive.

Sorry if this is hard to read and doesn't make sense. I was out at the track all day today and I'm completely and utterly exhausted. Let me know if you have any other questions, I'm more than happy to divulge what knowledge I can.
Thanks for the info FGW
Does it have the adjustable rearsets or are they fixed? Hows the brake system on it? What's the bad points?
not long trip friendly, i see.. like the R1's when they first came out? the weight of your body was on your wrists?
Does it have a gear indicator or any gads? Hows the gear?
Sorry if i ask so many Q's, just want to know as much as i can.
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