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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 05-17-2007, 08:58 PM Thread Starter
 
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MV Agusta F4 312 won Master Bike 2007

For those who don't know, once every year various motorcycle magazines througout the world send their best riders/writers to ride the best and fastest sport bikes and see which bike has the fastest TRACK time bar none. This performance test doesn't necessarily favor the liter bikes because of the more rideable powers of the 600s or the V-twins. But these bikes are supposedly the best sport bikes in the world, so no excuses are accepted. The fastest bike wins.
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http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Articl...ID=4733&Page=1

MV Agusta F4 R312 Wins Master Bike
5/15/2007
Courtesy of MV Agusta

Years of painstaking work, never-ending research and the pure passion and professionalism of all the MV Agusta engineers has won them the prestigious Master Bike competition this year that took place at the Jerez circuit in Spain.

The F4-R 312 won the title of 2007 Master Bike up against the best the competition had to offer. The riders included 18 specialist journalists and world-renowned riders like Randy Mamola, Jurgen Fuchs and Stefan Chambon representing the 15 best-known motorcycling magazines.

Unlike previous versions, the three categories were changed this year to celebrate the tenth anniversary. The twin-cylinder and four-cylinder Superbike categories were replaced by Japanese Superbike and Italian Superbike.

The F4-R 312 first won the Italian Superbike category by beating the Aprilia RSV 1000 Factory and Ducati 1098 S. The MV then took on and defeated the Yamaha R1 and Triumph Daytona 675 in the overall results. These machines had previously won respectively the Japanese Superbike and Supersport 600 categories.

The F4-R 312 allowed 4 riders out of 6 to complete their fastest laps in the final, while 10 riders out of 18 clocked up their best times during the heats.

The F4 has become a legend in the motorcycle history and this latest win confirms once more just how much this machine is appreciated by both journalists and riders the world over.
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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 05-17-2007, 09:04 PM
 
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Nice post repped

One day I will have an MV Agusta F4.
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Impressive.



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Impressive. Last year a Mille took the honors, this year an MV. It would appear that the Italians have their stuff together.

Which brings me to another point...... it would seem that everytime I read a shootout in the US rags, the Euro bikes never fare well. Hell, last year, one of the magazines (sorry, I don't remember which one but its still beside my toilet) didn't even include the Mille in their liter bike shootout. A few weeks later it won the Master Bike shootout.

Another example is in this month's Sport Rider. In the 600 shootout, the Triumph 675 finished next to last, even though its lap times were only .02 behind the "hands down" winner, the CBR. One of the complaints against the Triumph was that "it didn't feel like our lap times were that fast". Isn't that the point? Go fast with the least amount of effort?

I try to read these shootouts objectively, but it gets harder and harder. It seems to me that 9 times out of 10, the winner is picked before the first bike is fired up.

OK. I'll shut up now.
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The Master Bike shootout isn't about the best all-around vehicle, it's about which one goes the fastest around the track; no BS & no excuses. And the evaluation should be viewed as such. It's good for bragging rights, but we who own these bikes don't take them to the track exclusively and nothing else.
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The Master Bike shootout isn't about the best all-around vehicle, it's about which one goes the fastest around the track; no BS & no excuses. And the evaluation should be viewed as such. It's good for bragging rights, but we who own these bikes don't take them to the track exclusively and nothing else.
Agreed. But when the premise of a mag article is "600 shootout", and the measurables are track times, quarter mile, roll ons, etc, and one bike finished first or second in each of the categories, but comes in fourth overall, sum-ting-wong. I hate it when these ass bags assign a "score" to subjective categories such as "fun to ride". If I wanted subjective judging, I would watch figure skating, which I certainly DO NOT! (as far as you guys know)

Not many folks buy a GSXR-1000 or R6 for comfort or touring. On the flip side, no one buys an Adventure or Multistrada for track days. These bikes should be graded on what they are designed to do, which is just what the Master Bike event does for the full on sport bike.

All that being said, congrats to the MV for winning this prestigious event.
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americans have always been stuck on hp numbers, thats why they just keep getting more powerful every year, now even ducati is falling prey to this thinking to sell more ducs, but in reality the ducs have been mopping up on the world scene for years while having the lowest power outputs, no matter whos riding them thay have been winning every year. WHY, CUZ ALL THE PARTS JUST WORK TOGETHER. dont matter the weight, power, etc if it works itll go fast. i may sound silly to some of you, but all you guys that have been on a track before know what im saying!!!
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I actually just bought this months issue of cycle world which has the results of the master bike in it and according to their lap times, all 4 of the big 4's liter bikes had faster lap times than the MV. The MV did have the most riders that had their best times on it, but 4 bikes had faster times and the R1's average of all six laps was faster too.
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I actually just bought this months issue of cycle world which has the results of the master bike in it and according to their lap times, all 4 of the big 4's liter bikes had faster lap times than the MV. The MV did have the most riders that had their best times on it, but 4 bikes had faster times and the R1's average of all six laps was faster too.
I thought lap time in class was the only measurable, then a lap time vs. the other class winners. Hmmmmmm.
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That is one sweeeet azzzzz bike......
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I thought lap time in class was the only measurable, then a lap time vs. the other class winners. Hmmmmmm.
The only other bikes in the MVs class were the Aprillia RSV1000R and the Ducatti 1098s. I was just looking at the lap times for every bike that they tested and out of the 13 total bikes the MV had the 5th best lap time.
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The only other bikes in the MVs class were the Aprillia RSV1000R and the Ducatti 1098s. I was just looking at the lap times for every bike that they tested and out of the 13 total bikes the MV had the 5th best lap time.
The way the competition is set up, a bike has to set the fastest lap in its category session. Then, in a separate session, set the fastest lap in the overall session. That being said, a bike can win the overall without setting the absolute fastest lap. This approach makes sense, since conditions can change from session to session. Also, from the original post:

The F4-R 312 first won the Italian Superbike category by beating the Aprilia RSV 1000 Factory and Ducati 1098 S. The MV then took on and defeated the Yamaha R1 and Triumph Daytona 675 in the overall results. These machines had previously won respectively the Japanese Superbike and Supersport 600 categories.
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I saw one of these the other night at the end of newbury street.

It's a place where a bunch of douchebags with neons on their bikes line up and park and sit there trying to look cool to pick up girls, hoping no one realized they all have more chicken strips than KFC.

Man, what a waste. I wanted to knock him out and take it. A 60,000 dollar bike.
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I saw one of these the other night at the end of newbury street.

It's a place where a bunch of douchebags with neons on their bikes line up and park and sit there trying to look cool to pick up girls, hoping no one realized they all have more chicken strips than KFC.

Man, what a waste. I wanted to knock him out and take it. A 60,000 dollar bike.
More like $25 - $30k, but I agree nontheless.

Reminds me of an episode I saw a couple of years ago. I was tooling around a local Ducati shop, and there is a beautiful, black 999s being checked out by a middle aged guy. The guy has obviously just bought the bike (about $25k if I'm not mistaken), and the salesman is wheeling the bike outside to go through the owner orientation. After a brief period with the gentlemen, the salesman shakes his hand, and comes back in the store. I watch the guy, because I'm drooling over the bike, and I want to watch him ride off. However, he doesn't have a helmet (mandatory in GA). Instead of riding the bike, he pushes it over to the side of the shop. There, in a brand new leather Ducati jacket, and what appeared to be a 17 year old jailbait girlfriend, is this guy's punk son. The dad starts the bike for him, shows him a few things, and then the kid wobbles off. I wanted to go over and punch the dad and son, and carry off the chick. Makes you sick to see such a bike go to waste.
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It wasn't just about the fastest lap. The R1 had the fastest lap. It didn't win overall mainly due to the software glitch that the 07 has in 2nd gear at about 5500 rpm.

Yamaha supposedly has a patch in the works to correct this...hopefully so.

The MV is a sweet bike...no doubt.

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More like $25 - $30k, but I agree nontheless.

. The dad starts the bike for him, shows him a few things, and then the kid wobbles off. I wanted to go over and punch the dad and son, and carry off the chick. Makes you sick to see such a bike go to waste.

everybody has to start sometime, i know i would have killed for my first bike to have been a duck instead of my brandy new 95' katana 600!!!
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I have one

and it is no like any other. The sounds and looks can't be beat
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me too, now, i just bought an 07' f4r to keep my gsxr 1000 company, just for the record, the gixxer is far supperior for the street and every day riding, but with 1 trackday under my belt on the mv its apparent this is were this bike shines, without getting used to the bike, set up, or pirrellis instead of my beloved dunlops im still 2-3 tenths per lap quicker on the slightly hevier mv, cuz it works!!!

somebody said to me the other day "why would i spend 20k on that when i could by a gsxr or r1 that can be just as fast"... to me thats like saying why not just by a 3 bedroom double wide trailor home instead of my house, i can live in both. a ZO6 vette costs about 1/3 the price of most lambo's or ferraris, but wich would you rather live in or drive?
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