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11-19-2006 12:20 PM
jeeps84
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Originally Posted by marko138 View Post
I'm not that old. I've just been around long enough to learn a few things.
Still wet behind the ears.
11-15-2006 02:37 PM
marko138
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Originally Posted by NONE_too_SOFT View Post
kudos to you marko, you are truely wise beyond your years (unless you're really old). Either way i hit you with some rep. thanks again.
I'm not that old. I've just been around long enough to learn a few things.



11-15-2006 02:36 PM
NONE_too_SOFT kudos to you marko, you are truely wise beyond your years (unless you're really old). Either way i hit you with some rep. thanks again.
11-15-2006 02:22 PM
marko138
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Originally Posted by NONE_too_SOFT View Post
I have been. Let me tell ya, the way you ride before a crash and the way you ride after one are almost like you are two completely diferetn people...

only thing that could have prevented the crash was experience. I tried to swerve and miss her but i wasnt fast enough and didnt think she was going to stop, so i put the brakes on too early and low sided the bike quite nicely. I gotta say i blacked out for a few seconds, i just remember thinking "o ****" and then laying on the ground wondering what just happened.

How ironic that i was in the parking lot in the first place practicing my braking and swerving. Grrrrrrrrrr.
Yeah it happens man. It's part of the learning curve. Find a open space...whether thats a less traveled back road or a big open lot...make sure it's clean. No rocks, etc. And practice emergency braking. Start slow and build speed. And do it on a regular basis. It might save your life someday.

You should be able to confidently stop the bike from the speed you ride at. For example...if you cruise at 40 you should be able to safely, and quickly stop the bike from 40. If you cruise at 140 you should know how to stop your bike from 140 mph.


Remember this...absolutely any jackass from the block can hop on a motorcycle and get it going 120 mph in a straight line...but not many can stop a motorcycle from 120 mph and corner properly.



11-15-2006 02:13 PM
NONE_too_SOFT I have been. Let me tell ya, the way you ride before a crash and the way you ride after one are almost like you are two completely diferetn people...

only thing that could have prevented the crash was experience. I tried to swerve and miss her but i wasnt fast enough and didnt think she was going to stop, so i put the brakes on too early and low sided the bike quite nicely. I gotta say i blacked out for a few seconds, i just remember thinking "o ****" and then laying on the ground wondering what just happened.

How ironic that i was in the parking lot in the first place practicing my braking and swerving. Grrrrrrrrrr.
11-15-2006 02:05 PM
marko138
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Originally Posted by NONE_too_SOFT View Post
All of the fairings on the left side will need replaced probobly, scratched the left mirror, left foot peg, left passenger foot peg, shattered the rear left fairing, and the engine cover on the left. also hit my head hard so i'll be getting a new helmet, woo hoo. And gloves got scratched up bad so i'll try to get compensation for those. I rode the bike home though, no fluids are leaking and the engine seemed intact, as well as the transmition.

The insurance lady said she was pretty obvious it is grandmas fault though, so i should be getting a hefty check to pay for the repairs. a guy should be comming soon to appraise the damage. I'd say its at least in the 1500 2000 range.
Unfortunately...it doesn't take much to do a couple thousand in damage to a bike. Glad you're alright tho. Think about what you could have done differently...



11-15-2006 02:00 PM
NONE_too_SOFT All of the fairings on the left side will need replaced probobly, scratched the left mirror, left foot peg, left passenger foot peg, shattered the rear left fairing, and the engine cover on the left. also hit my head hard so i'll be getting a new helmet, woo hoo. And gloves got scratched up bad so i'll try to get compensation for those. I rode the bike home though, no fluids are leaking and the engine seemed intact, as well as the transmition.

The insurance lady said she was pretty obvious it is grandmas fault though, so i should be getting a hefty check to pay for the repairs. a guy should be comming soon to appraise the damage. I'd say its at least in the 1500 2000 range.
11-15-2006 01:46 PM
marko138
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Originally Posted by NONE_too_SOFT View Post
Yah you're not the only guy in here to say something about a little nipple action. Its now respectfully modified for you guys.

SOOOOOOOO.....

My fuel line was clogged and it was starving my engine. good news huh? bike works fine now!

Cept yesterday grandma pulls out in front of me in a parking lot and i put my bike down. it was nice to ride it again for a day at least. Parking lots have to be the most dangerous place to ride a bike. I swear to god in ohio a parking lot possess' the same rules as a demolition derby.

At least she was insured.

Glad you got her straight man...but sucks to hear you dropped it. Now just imagine if that was a brand new bike. It would suck more. Drops are part of the game. Hopefully you learned something from the experience.

How much damage did you do?



11-15-2006 01:37 PM
NONE_too_SOFT Yah you're not the only guy in here to say something about a little nipple action. Its now respectfully modified for you guys.

SOOOOOOOO.....

My fuel line was clogged and it was starving my engine. good news huh? bike works fine now!

Cept yesterday grandma pulls out in front of me in a parking lot and i put my bike down. it was nice to ride it again for a day at least. Parking lots have to be the most dangerous place to ride a bike. I swear to god in ohio a parking lot possess' the same rules as a demolition derby.

At least she was insured.
11-12-2006 11:07 PM
Gas Man Yeah but man... you just have to change that avatar.... its wiggin me out! I see you typin but all I hear is "man nipple" "Man Nipple" "MAN NIPPLE"



11-12-2006 08:02 PM
NONE_too_SOFT
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Originally Posted by bumblebee View Post
I would start with checking the plugs and then move to the carbs...Because it is starting, but you need to "choke it" when running...sounds like plugs or carbs...on a bike that old, you need to get the proper shop manual and take the carbs completely apart and rebuild them and clean the intakes...

And the CCT (cam chain tensioner) does exactly that...it keeps tension on the cam chain so you don't slip a tooth or spin on a cam gear when riding...especially at higher RPM's. It is the lifter that goes out and causes the rattle that you hear. And unless you think bent valves or damaged pistons are minor repairs...it needs to be repaired ASAP...
I was definatly talking about replacing plugs, not new valves or pistons, but .

I'm gonna call the shop at lunch tomorrow and see if they have any idea or have even gotten to it.

You guys are an awesome community, I've been more than shocked at how cool everbody is around here. Most of my other hobbie's forums are just a bunch of jerk off's trolling for fights so they can boost thier cyber ego.



Oh and about that cbr600f1 manual, once again does anybody know if it is basically the same schematics for an fs?
11-12-2006 07:57 PM
bumblebee I would start with checking the plugs and then move to the carbs...Because it is starting, but you need to "choke it" when running...sounds like plugs or carbs...on a bike that old, you need to get the proper shop manual and take the carbs completely apart and rebuild them and clean the intakes...

And the CCT (cam chain tensioner) does exactly that...it keeps tension on the cam chain so you don't slip a tooth or spin on a cam gear when riding...especially at higher RPM's. It is the lifter that goes out and causes the rattle that you hear. And unless you think bent valves or damaged pistons are minor repairs...it needs to be repaired ASAP...
11-12-2006 06:52 PM
NONE_too_SOFT I remember when I was replacing plugs on my honda civic's v4 that i started it up with 3 and the way the motor reacted was much like it reacted on my bike. I'm really hoping its just something as easy to fix as that. I wish i wouldnt have taken my bike to the dealer so quickly now, but i still dont have my damn owners manual and the one on these forums is for a cbr600f1 ... are they basically the same model?
11-12-2006 05:26 PM
King Bob a dead plug would also cause the motor to vibrate like crazy I think. you'd notice the sudden drop in power too.
11-12-2006 04:09 PM
jeeps84 A dead plug could cause similar problems. You should be able to easily tell by the color and or wetness if you have a bad plug.
11-12-2006 12:09 PM
NONE_too_SOFT From talking with people that are a little more well versed in motorcycleology than I, they mentioned the stalling could be due to bad spark plugs... if they plugs in that bike are the orriginals and they've been in there for 8 years I suppose that may be true. Does anybody have anything to say about spark plugs or even the timing of the engine? (remember i said when i have the clutch pulled in first the bike will slowly idle to a stall)
11-12-2006 08:30 AM
King Bob far as I know, from my reading, the stock CCT just rattles, doesnt cause any other problems though.
11-11-2006 11:43 PM
Gas Man Good call Tater... that is very true!



11-11-2006 09:38 PM
TATER I know that CBRs can have problems with the cam chain tensioners... that could make a metalic rattle but I dont know about a clank.. and I dont know if that could lead to any other issues with the bike..
11-11-2006 10:57 AM
NONE_too_SOFT
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Originally Posted by JEKYLL View Post
Hmmm...sounds like a good one...need more info,do you smell or see gas? This is one you'd need to have in front of you to check certain conditions to begin to diagnose...it's hard to do on just a vauge discription...keep us posted...DO NOT sign or pay for anything until you are SURE there was no damage that has not been repaired caused from the orig. problem!!!

welllll i took it to the dealer today and i had to sign an invoice for service today. I'm really pissed that i just bought a bike that i have to spend additional $ on to get to work properly, i woulda been better off buying a newer (more expensive) bike if these *******s are gonna extort me like this.

I'm going to shoot the owner of the store an e-mail and tell him whats goin on. I cant see ever being a patron of this place again if this is how they are going to conduct business.



i dont have any decent pics and the bike is no longer at my house so theres not much i can do right now to help you guys any more, wish i should have gotten these post last night
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