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07-14-2007 04:26 PM
The Bandit Gurl
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Originally Posted by ScottSellersUNR View Post
its like all aftermarket parts... just to keep people from suing them if you bottom out and damage the bike, or crash because of them. They are not gonna cause you to be unsafe. Just keep in mind your footpegs will scrape sooner at less of a lean... but on the 250 with a newer rider that will probalby not be an issue on its mushy stock suspension.
Well thank you!!! I still haven't had them installed by the way... I really don't want to but I know it must be done...
07-14-2007 02:21 PM
ScottSellersUNR its like all aftermarket parts... just to keep people from suing them if you bottom out and damage the bike, or crash because of them. They are not gonna cause you to be unsafe. Just keep in mind your footpegs will scrape sooner at less of a lean... but on the 250 with a newer rider that will probalby not be an issue on its mushy stock suspension.
07-11-2007 12:54 AM
The Bandit Gurl So I got my lowering links today (mind you ONE business day after I ordered them-- not three months) and on the back it says:

"WARNING- These lowering links were designed for racetrack use only."

What the heck is that supposed to mean?? and can I still install them on my bike for everyday riding... I am hoping to have it done tommorrow or the next day... and I am kinda sad because I know it is going to effect its superior handling...
07-09-2007 07:10 AM
The Bandit Gurl [QUOTE=Becca_007;388314]I wanted more stability. I only dropped it an inch at the most, but that is enough to get more than my just my toes on the ground. When stopping on gravel I am just more comfprtable. QUOTE]


Yeah, Gravel is definitely not a biker's best friend...
07-08-2007 09:38 PM
Becca_007 I wanted more stability. I only dropped it an inch at the most, but that is enough to get more than my just my toes on the ground. When stopping on gravel I am just more comfprtable. Also, I can now sit on my bike and move it around. No more looking like an idiot trying to back out of a parking space. Another bonus is having a lower center of gravity. Maybe it's just being more comfortable in general, but I can now stand next to my bike and move it around too. Before I would always sit on it and try to tippy toe my way around the garage. And one more thing! With the back slightly lowered I am no longer pushed into the gas tank. My seat had/has quite a slant and I don't have to fuss with that nonsense anymore. Course that could also be because I can touch the ground and don't have to scooch so far forward in order to do so anymore.

I could have left it stock and been just fine. I can ride my stepdad's Z1000 which is even slightly taller (seat height wise). But, I like the added security of having more foot and room to work with.
07-08-2007 09:16 PM
The Bandit Gurl
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Originally Posted by Becca_007 View Post
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. I rode mine for 2 years before lowering. After the new links I love riding it even more.
If you rode for two years without lowering your bike, why did you decide to lower it afterward? I am glad that it make it better to ride, I am hestitant about doing such a big mod to my bike because I don't want it to change too much...
07-08-2007 08:08 PM
Becca_007 I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. I rode mine for 2 years before lowering. After the new links I love riding it even more.
07-08-2007 04:59 PM
PlayfulGod Congrats, when it comes to franchised parts stores of any sort its all to do with who they hire. 90% of the time its some iggit that can run a register n sweep. lol MayBe
07-08-2007 04:39 PM
itgirl25 just wait til you get those links on your baby ninja. it'll be a whole new experience. you'll fall in love all over again, and you'll be more confident. glad things are finally going your way.
07-08-2007 04:29 PM
The Bandit Gurl Here I go AGAIN.... I finished my MSF course on Friday and what a difference in being able to touch the ground... It is foriegn on my Ninja, but on the old eliminators, I felt in total control... (except that I couldn't get used to where your feet have to sit) It was unbelievable... My folks hoped that me driving a different style of bike would make me want to sell my baby but instead it makes me more happy everytime I even think about my bike. Anyways I ended up going to a different bike shop and ordering them this weekend. They said that they will have it in 2-3 business days from Monday when they place the order!!! Much better then the forever wait that the other shop insisted on me to have to wait... and they were ALOT nicer. The crazy part?? its all from the same place- Parts Unlimited... So why is it different?? Silly boys...
06-18-2007 01:05 AM
The Bandit Gurl
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Originally Posted by ghostrider750 View Post
The main thing is that your having fun and while also being safe and confident on whatever bike you are on, otherwise it will seem like work and is dangerous.
Yeah I totally agree!!! You are a very wise person!!!
06-17-2007 11:47 AM
ghostrider750 The main thing is that your having fun and while also being safe and confident on whatever bike you are on, otherwise it will seem like work and is dangerous.
06-17-2007 08:13 AM
The Bandit Gurl
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Originally Posted by ghostrider750 View Post
The 500 Ninja weighs 388 lbs. (dry) with a seat height of 30.5" whereas the Ninja 250 is at a weight of 304 lbs (again dry) and the seat height of 29.3"
A little bit of difference. Kawasaki also has the 650 which weighs 416 lbs. with a seat height of 30.9" and Suzuki has the GS500 at a dry weight of 397 lbs. with a seat height of 31.1 on these bikes you may have to get lowering links if your having trouble touching the ground on your 250, but if you feel confident with your setup now you may be able to hop on the higher seated bikes.
Just for noteworthy sake: all of the current 600's weigh less than the Ninja 500, and some seat heights ranging from a 1.9" (GSXR600) to 3".(YZFR6). So the weight savings a plus but the seat heights do go up. Good news is seat heights on current bikes are less that just 3-4 yrs ago so shorter riders do have a better selection now. Hopw this helps a little.

Yeah thank you, you are awesome. For some stupid reason it just occurred to me that my brother has a 650, that I should sit on it and actually feel the difference. I really want to stay with Kawi or Yamaha (although that's a crazy idea) but I have about a year or so to get my practice on this lil one....
before I think I am going to go bigger... but hey you never know...
06-17-2007 12:36 AM
ghostrider750 The 500 Ninja weighs 388 lbs. (dry) with a seat height of 30.5" whereas the Ninja 250 is at a weight of 304 lbs (again dry) and the seat height of 29.3"
A little bit of difference. Kawasaki also has the 650 which weighs 416 lbs. with a seat height of 30.9" and Suzuki has the GS500 at a dry weight of 397 lbs. with a seat height of 31.1 on these bikes you may have to get lowering links if your having trouble touching the ground on your 250, but if you feel confident with your setup now you may be able to hop on the higher seated bikes.
Just for noteworthy sake: all of the current 600's weigh less than the Ninja 500, and some seat heights ranging from a 1.9" (GSXR600) to 3".(YZFR6). So the weight savings a plus but the seat heights do go up. Good news is seat heights on current bikes are less that just 3-4 yrs ago so shorter riders do have a better selection now. Hopw this helps a little.
06-16-2007 10:11 PM
The Bandit Gurl So I went to my lovely local bike shop and asked them when my links were supposed to come in and he didn't want to tell me or he just said that he called when he might not have... grr... whatever I told them since it was not sent yet could they please cancel the order... and he asked me if I grew over the last month that I would seem to not need it anymore. Well maybe I will grow over the next few years waiting for the links to come in... so I made them cancel them anyways. I went for a long ride today and again I just don't see it necessary to have them put on my bike... so that is it I suppose...

So I want a bigger bike and I have been looking at the ninja500s. Does anyone knoow Are they higher and how much heavier from the 250s are they?
06-15-2007 09:11 AM
The Bandit Gurl Thank you for your research. I do look at that site as well on a daily basis but I am not that crazy about it. Don't get me wrong they have great FAQ but the people are just not the same... As mocking of myself as this might sound, if I was to get that done, I would have my Father show me. I am the typical female and before getting my bike I had no intrest in any mechanical activties (why it changed for my bike, idk??) So I understand what you were saying. Like I said in the earlier post, I don't think that I am gonna get the links now. It just seems silly for me to when I can pretty much half foot it. Maybe I will regret it, and maybe I won't... IDK yet...

but Thank You all for your help!!!
06-15-2007 02:26 AM
dnyce
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Originally Posted by The Bandit Gurl View Post
Are you sure that that is possible for the ninja 250?? I really spent hours researching it and I never came up with someone whom said it was possible... I would ask my bike shop if they were not so silly... I believe that I read that the triple tree forks are right below the steering so their is no actual way to get in their and lower it. Has anyone did or not did it that owns this bike? How different is the steering/ handling the bike? Isn't it really a toss up for new riders as to how it handles because we don't know any different??
yes its possible, most bikes are built that way. sometimes u just gotta look at what you wana do to your bike and see if it can be done. then if you cant see it happenin, the internet is your best buddy. check it out, i typed in ninja 250 and hit search on yahoo, and the 2nd link listed gave me this:

"The front can be lowered by sliding up the fork tubes in the triple clamp. You can leave the handlebars on, and loosen the four (two upper, two lower) fork clamp bolts to drop the front end several millimeters; the forks will top out at the bottom of the handlebars, and then the clamps can be retightened (upper clamp bolts are torqued to 14.5 ft/lbs, lower bolts to 22 ft/lbs).

If you want the front even lower, you can take off the bars and then loosen the 4 clamp bolts, and slide the front end down (put a car jack under the front of the engine so the bike doesn't slide all the way down to the fender); don't go over 1". Then make some spacers to be placed between the triple clamp and the handlebars.

I went to a machine shop and bought a small 1/2" thick piece of aluminum, and then cut and shaped it to fit under the bars (about 2 x 3"), also cutting a hole in the center the same size as the tubes, and holes for the bar bolts. Go slow, measure and mark everything. I ground all of the edges smooth and painted it black; it looks factory original. Another benefit is it raises the bars up a bit so there is less back, arm, and wrist strain. It's a lot of work, but it really made a comfort difference for me."

so get out there and do it lol-one thing tho, unless u let the forks raise up til they hit the handlebars (thats an easy way to make sure both forks are equal in height as long as you want it that low) have someone help you. and before i get yelled at, not cuz you're a girl but becuz its just easier to have one person hold the fork at the desired height and have the other person tighten it down. or use a car jack if nobodys around to lend a hand, itll be easier to hold. hope that helped ya!
oh yea, that site was www.ninja250.info
06-14-2007 10:10 PM
The Bandit Gurl So I have went on my fourth solo ride (thank god the rain in NY finally held back for me) and I really don't think that I need it... It just doesn't seem that bad for the amount of money spent and like it was said- the handling is different and I should also then buy a kickstand so that I can modify it. I think that I might just go up to the shop and see about cancelling my order... it was supposed to come in 4 days ago... but I think that if it doesn't rain tommorrow I think I am gonna go out for a fifth ride and really think about it. To me, it just seems like a waste of my money... idk... we'll see...
06-14-2007 12:11 PM
ScottSellersUNR lowering the rear without doing the front will make the bike feel more heavy in corners, and make it turn into the corners slower. it makes it a more "neutral" handling bike. a lot of riders wont notice it, but as u advance and get faster in corners you will for sure, especially in twisties where there are tight chicanes. At 2 inches lowered in the rear.. it WILL be noticably different, even with limited miles under your belt. Sport Rider Magazine pretty much recommends anything over 2 or 3mm of change to the rear should be followed by front changes. As far as your 250 allowing the forks to be raised in the tree, I wouldnt be able to tell you without seeign he bike and i havent seen one in a while. a Ex250 forum should have some knowledgable ppl to just ask.

On sliding forward....Your leg muscles get stronger real quick squeezing the tank on brakes... and the rest the time your giving it gas so it keeps you back.
06-14-2007 07:46 AM
Becca_007 For my bike I didn't need to lower the front. I only dropped her about 3/4 of an inch and I don't see where if affects the steering negatively. It's a bit different but so is the whole bike. If I were to lower the front then I bet the bike would push me forward into the gastank again which was corrected with lowering only the rear. A side effect I hadn't planned on, but absolutely love. In a more drastic situation I can see where lowering the fornt woudl be necessary as well, but for mine it's just fine left alone.
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