[slam150]

hey guys, can a bike (specificaly a 05 kawi 636) be streched with out being lowered or loosing the handeling? i want to strech the bike and put a bigger wheel on the back.

so, streching the bike and putting a bigger tire on the back is what i want to do, can i do this, or is it not advised?

 

[DLIT]

If you strectch it lowered or not the wheel base will be longer and that will affect your steering significantly. But you can stretch it without lowering it. I wouldn't advise it if you want to carve twisties.

 

[marko138]

And everyone knows a bigger, fatter, wider tire is not conducive to carving twisties...

 

[bumblebee]

Anytime you change the Chassis or suspension components, you will change the handling...

 

[DLIT]

:iagree: Yup. I lowered my front a while back and the difference was noticeable quick. I got use to it though. Since then I've raised it back up to stock height because I wasn't happy losing ground clearance because I intend to hit the track this year.

 

[jeeps84]

We make 5 and 10 mm adjustments in ride height to adjust handling at the track. Even that much in chain adjustment, sliding the rear wheel forward and aft also makes changes. I see allot of guys going up and down a tire size trying to make quick noticeable changes.

If you stretch your bike enough to put a fat tire on. You might as well lower it too. It will be useless for much more than going straight.

 

[Gas Man]

Yeah it is going to kill the suspensions performence!!

 

[R1up0n1]

you will notice a difference right away in the handling. I lowered my SV an inch or so and I had to get use to it.

Stretching or puting a bigger/fatter tire on the back will not help ya out too much in the curves.

 

[slam150]

ok, then what are some good ways of modifying the suspension and tires to get good traction in the turns and basic road conditions?

 

[drewpy]

try getting ahold of speedwerks, they might be able to help

 

[DLIT]

Have a shop tune your suspension and upgrade the rubber. Michelin Pilot Powers are the way to go.

 

[pickle.of.doom]

Attend a track day!

 

[Back _Marker]

ok, then what are some good ways of modifying the suspension and tires to get good traction in the turns and basic road conditions?

i would suggest you modify your riding technique to allow the suspension to do it's job. the best way is to control throttle to allow a balanced load on both front and rear ends at mid cornering. if you are going to slide, slide both tires. try to avoid loading up the front end entering a corner. give it some throttle. also, take note of what gear you are on.

if the road you normally carve up on is very bumpy (rippled), then you need to stiffen the rebound on your suspension. not sure what all you can adjust on your bike. Smoother roads can go softer. But other riders prefer different setups because of how they ride. I prefer softer suspension settings. This requires more consentration on your lines.

also check tire pressure, you don't want it overinflated. not sure if you are familiar with setting up sag. i use zip ties on the fork tubes to measure front sag with me on and without me on. rear sag requires another person to measure.

stock suspension should be fine for street riding.
until you really get to know your bike, i would stick with it's current stock settings.

-a|ex

 

[Gas Man]

Ya... you really won't have a traction problem. If your tires are stepping out or somin... just get some Pilor Powers... all will be fine. Also, get your suspension setup for you!